July 8, 2024

Ep. 114 - Achieving Work-Life-Health Balance with Jenna Jahnz

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Finding balance in your work and life is one thing, but have you ever considered your health? It's not something to overlook. Why not live your best life feeling great about your health now so that you are there for those who matter to you in the future? Joining us is life and health coach Jenna Jahnz, of Empower Your Step, to talk about the importance of being active and her experience coaching men who are high-level achievers, executives in prominent companies and athletes pursuing stoicism.

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Here we go.

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Here we are on episode 114

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of the Trash Talk business podcast.

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This is our opportunity every week to grow,

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scale, and build our junk removal dream.

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I'm Andy Wines, host.

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I'm still looking for a co-host, kind of.

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Like, I'm not really looking.

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However, it's like 7-Eleven.

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not always doing business

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and I'm always open to the idea.

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So anyways, I'm Andy Wines.

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She's Jenna Jans,

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RN health and life coach.

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And I know that because she

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put that all in her title.

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She might have the longest

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title we've ever had here on the podcast.

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Jenna, welcome to the podcast.

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Thank you.

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Glad to be here.

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Also, I've known Jenna three plus years.

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So she's one of the few

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guests that I actually know.

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And I didn't know until

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about 40 seconds ago how to

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pronounce her last name.

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So here we are in the great

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internet interwaves world.

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All right, Jenna, I know what you do.

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Tell the listener, what is it you do?

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And then we'll dive into

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your journey and your story

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and where you're going with that.

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Sounds good.

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So I'm a registered nurse

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and a certified health and life coach.

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I specialize in men's health

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as well as weight loss.

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I was born and raised in Western medicine,

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and I spent most of my career in the ER,

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both as a nurse and an ER manager.

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And I just witnessed

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firsthand for so many years,

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the detrimental effects of

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what chronic illness does.

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And not just for my patients,

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but for my staff, for my team.

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And that's when I found

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coaching as I was

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progressing my nursing career,

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almost entering as a

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primary care provider,

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realizing that I have so

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much more benefit in

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helping people with their

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day-to-day life versus

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prescribing expensive meds

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and tests and all the

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things that Western

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medicine does for us at this time.

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I like it.

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So what is it,

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what do you do now and who do you serve?

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Yeah.

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So now I do both still.

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I coach Monday through Thursday,

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working with mostly men.

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Usually they're about the

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age of 30s to 50s,

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although my oldest client is 77,

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which I think is so fun.

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And then on the weekends, I still nurse.

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I'm a triage nurse.

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So I provide medical advice

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to patients for all of

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Wisconsin and Illinois.

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So why, let's talk about, so you,

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you only serve men in your

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coaching practice and who

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are these men typically?

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Why, why do they come to you?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Good question.

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Well, the, the men that I serve,

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they often come to me cause I feel like.

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I provide the safe space.

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It's having my nursing

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background as well as being

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a woman who's so interested in fitness,

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mental health, physical health,

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emotional health.

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I tend to attract guys who

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are trying to find balance.

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Their coping skills might not be the best,

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their high stress lives,

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they have high societal expectations,

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busy, on the go, diets not so good.

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And they're just trying to

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look for a change.

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A lot of these guys are

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young and they're already on medication,

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high blood pressure pills,

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high cholesterol.

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You know,

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their doctors already given them

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the warning that they're on

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a bad trajectory.

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So I like to step in from that prevention,

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you know,

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measures to let's make some changes.

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Let's get you off your

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medication and increase the

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quality and length of your

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life potentially.

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So you're talking about coping.

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I cannot tell you anything.

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I cannot recall the last

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time I heard the word coping.

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So what do you mean by coping?

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Well,

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coping means something different to

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everybody, whether it's overworking,

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whether it's over drinking, social media,

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right, overindulging on social media.

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You know,

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even to the fact how many people

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have more of a victim mentality, right?

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Life is happening to you and

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it's hard just to get out

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of that negative loop.

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So from a coping standpoint,

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it's being able to have

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more of a stoic approach in

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life and just be able to

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better balance your

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emotions and find better outlets to

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to improve your mental, physical,

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emotional, and spiritual health.

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So you post daily on the Facebook.

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I see it all the time, right?

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Whether it's videos or sayings,

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I am not as religious or

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disciplined as you are.

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I'll go a couple of weeks good,

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and then a couple of weeks not so good,

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whatever.

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Or am I much more temperamental?

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Okay, use the word stoic.

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I keep hearing this word popping up,

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right?

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So let's talk about stoicism.

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Right.

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And and really, I mean,

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our audience are primarily

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junk rule operators.

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Definitely more lean,

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more males than females.

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Right.

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So what does that what does

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that mean to define that?

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Again,

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I know you like used to mean

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different things,

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but like the stoicism and I

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never really use the word stoicism or,

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you know, to be stoic.

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And yet I lean into what I

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interpret stoicism is.

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So explain that to our audience.

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Yeah.

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And knowing you for the last three years,

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I feel like you do live a stoic life,

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just the way that you talk

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and the way that you move.

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So for me, stoicism,

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I found this about five or

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six years ago when I was in a hard time.

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I just was not feeling

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fulfilled with my career,

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with my marriage, with everything.

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everything going on.

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And I just found stoicism to be so,

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so beneficial to me.

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And the best way I can say it is amor fati,

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to love one's fate,

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to understand that

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everything that happens in life,

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we can either, you know,

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bitch and complain and find a reason to,

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you know, to feel bad,

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or we can use it as a lesson.

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We can become stronger from it.

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We can grow from it.

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We can take a situation,

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whether we failed or not,

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and somehow find the good

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in it so that we understand

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that our time here on earth,

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we need to make the most of it, right?

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I mean, we could go tomorrow,

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so either we could be upset

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or we can make the most of our life,

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take control over the

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things that we can control

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and let go of the things that we cannot.

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Yeah,

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I Googled it because that's how I

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live life.

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And I like what you said.

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So the Google definition is

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the endurance of pain or

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hardship without the

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display of feelings and

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without complaint.

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So that's stoicism, right?

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Okay,

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so you're stoic and you stand there

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and you're really badass.

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I look at it that way.

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Right, right.

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I like what you said more

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because my mom has this.

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This is one of her things

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she says often is to have.

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I did Andy Wines Live right before this,

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and I was talking about battle cries.

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And one of her battle cries,

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and I didn't talk about it on the show,

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but now I think about it.

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She has it right on our barn.

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We have a barn in our family

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commune situation.

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But it says, have faith in your fate.

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Right.

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So it's similar, like let, let, let go,

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let God, right.

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All those things.

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Um, because I think a stoicism, I,

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when I did mass resiliency training,

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the army, um, we talked about how, right.

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You can be an egg or you can

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be a tennis ball, right?

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If you're an egg,

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you're hard on the inside.

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And yet when you drop,

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you're going to crack.

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However, when you're a tennis ball, right.

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You bounce back.

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And we read a poem.

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And of course,

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now I'm going to have to

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think about this poem.

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And it was like, uh, uh,

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It was that poem.

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Now I'm going to look it up

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because it can drive me nuts.

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But it's all about it.

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To me,

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I guess I look at stoicism maybe in

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a more negative light or

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always have because it's

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the second half of this

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definition of displays

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without feelings or without complaints.

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And I like what you said.

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It's really not right without complaint.

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Yeah.

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Like, hey.

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deal with it, right?

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My three-step methodology

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for life is very simple, right?

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Do the fucking thing,

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tell the fucking world, show the fuck up.

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And stoicism for me is show the fuck up,

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right?

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Despite the challenge, despite the pain,

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despite what comes at you,

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show up as who you are.

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And you're jumping into the

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entrepreneurial world.

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A lot of us here, the listeners,

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we've been in the

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entrepreneurial world and

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it comes down to

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controlling the situation

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versus the situation controlling us.

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Right.

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So this whole idea of without feelings,

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no lean into the feelings.

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And yet lean into the

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feelings in a way that

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you're going to get the best out of it.

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Right.

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Lean into it.

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Right.

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Lean into it.

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Like, Oh, like in the military,

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we have a very great saying

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embrace the suck.

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That is like our ultimate battle cry.

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Like someone's like, Oh, this sucks.

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You're like, yeah, it does embrace it.

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Like, right.

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Whether or not you knew what

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you were signing up for,

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Here we are, right?

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Embrace it.

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That's an option,

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and every other option sucks, right?

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Because complaining about it, bitching,

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that ain't going to get you anywhere.

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Exactly.

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Embrace the suck.

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I forgot about that.

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Taylor, we'll have to add that to somehow.

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I have to add that in post

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to my Annie Wines Live.

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Embrace the suck.

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How I went an entire 15

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minutes battle cry without

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saying embrace the suck.

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man this is driving me nuts

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like I'm I'm gonna have to

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look this up now I'm

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thinking serenity prayer

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are you familiar yeah oh

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yeah right so yeah hold on

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let me see if I can pull it

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out of my ass god grant me

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the serenity wisdom wisdom

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yeah the no serenity to to

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what understand the things

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I cannot control the wisdom

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to know the difference in the

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Now I'm going to have to Google this shit.

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You're close.

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I'm close.

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Serenity.

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I can't spell Serenity.

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Serenity Prayer.

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They used it a lot in...

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Don't they use that a lot in AA?

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Yeah, there it is.

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Exactly.

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That's exactly it.

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God, grab me the serenity,

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the things I cannot change,

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the courage to change the things I can,

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and the wisdom to know the difference.

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There we go.

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I've missed the whole courage thing,

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like the goddamn lion.

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And this is what I tell people,

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whether you're religious or not,

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this is such a great

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approach to life because we

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can't control what people do to us.

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We can't control the things

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that people say,

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but we can control how we react.

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Right.

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And there is a very delicate

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balance and understanding

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what is happening to us,

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what is happening for us

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and what we're going to do about it.

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And I like to really preach

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that so people take more

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control over their actions

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and their responses.

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You are literally speaking to my book.

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Have you read my book yet?

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I have not finished it, but I'm in it.

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I'm in multiple books right now.

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We'll say started it.

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No, because that's it, right?

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It is about responding to

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the situation versus

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reacting to the person.

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That is...

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Like that is it.

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That is the ultimate goal in life, right?

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And even in our industry in junk removal,

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it's like, oh, my competitor did this.

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Oh, the landfill did that.

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Oh, the customer did this.

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And it's like, all right,

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what are you going to do about it?

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Like we had a situation

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earlier today where a customer called.

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She's not in the state.

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she did not understand why

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her price was what it was.

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It actually went down,

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but it didn't go down as

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much as she thought it was

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going to go down because she kept saying,

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Oh, I spent all this time this weekend.

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And she was just going in

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circles and circles and circles.

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And I finally go, okay,

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what is your ideal outcome?

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Right.

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And I said like three or four times,

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you know,

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I just don't want to pay this much.

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Okay.

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Well, how much do you want to pay?

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Right.

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How much do you want to pay?

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Give me a number.

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Right.

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And it was $78 different

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than where we were at.

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And I'm like, okay.

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It went from 1603 to 1525.

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I go, okay.

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I said, for $78,

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we can be done with this

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conversation and you can feel validated?

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Yes.

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Okay.

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Let's do that then.

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Yeah.

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It was that simple.

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It's like, okay, let's do that.

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And instead of,

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I'm not changing my pricing structure.

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I'm not going to call and apologize.

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I'm not going to unload my

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truck and then take

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pictures and send you what

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I did and didn't take.

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Whatever all these things are,

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ultimately the customer

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didn't feel like they got

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their value for the work done.

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Sounds good.

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How valuable was it?

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And the number she pulled up

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was relatively arbitrary

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based off of some math she

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did in her head.

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And I go, sounds good.

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I was right there with Mike

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and we were on the speakerphone.

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I go, okay.

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So if I take $78 off this, I make it 15.

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And we were,

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I'm not gonna argue with you

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about how we got here.

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We did a timetable and she

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was not interested, right?

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Oh, okay.

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So we explained the process.

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We booked the job.

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We completed the job.

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We're billing you for the job.

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And now you're in a point

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where now you want to have

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a conversation about what, okay.

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And if $78 is the difference

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between being done and

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continuing this circle jerk, well,

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let's do it.

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$78 sounds like a really

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good use of my money, right?

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And we moved on.

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We see a lot in our industry as people,

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especially guys,

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they have no idea how to

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price their jobs.

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And so now they're just,

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they're constantly guessing.

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And they're allowing the customer like, oh,

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well, we're slow this week.

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Well, it's like, well,

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does your price change

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because you're slow?

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Or do you need to get better?

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Like, what does this ultimately look like?

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And that's the kind of stuff

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I see from a stoicism standpoint.

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That's where people get sideways.

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Sure.

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And you probably see that with a lot.

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I mean, I could even say that in my field.

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How do you know what your services are?

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what cost to apply to them

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for the value that you're

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adding to people.

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Also, I did find it.

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I've been sitting here for

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the last five minutes getting frustrated.

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I could not remember what

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poem we use in the military

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for mass resiliency training.

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And what I think of when I

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think of stoicism,

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and it's Invictus by

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William Ernst Henley.

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I'm pulling it up now.

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Out of the night covers me.

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Black is the pit from pole to pole.

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I think whatever gods may be

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for my unconquerable soul.

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I used to teach this quite a bit,

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Mass Resiliency Training,

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and I have to read this.

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I always struggle with the

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word unconquerable.

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Man, I'm still struggling.

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For my unconquerable soul.

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So when I think of stoicism, it's that,

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right?

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It is this standing at the gates of hell,

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right, with my, you know,

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bowed and not broken.

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It matters not how I straight the gate,

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how charged.

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No, man, I'm all over the damn place.

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I should just read the whole

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damn poem at this point.

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My head is bloody unbowed.

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So it's okay.

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Yeah.

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Shit happens.

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And yet I'm ready to take it on.

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And so that's,

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so we use this poem actually

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in resiliency training as a

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way of not being,

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because when you're so hard

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in that regard, you're,

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you're not resilient.

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And so finding that

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alignment where you can be

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stoic and that you carry

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yourself in such a manner.

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And yet you're also not so much, um,

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you're not so resistant to

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hearing what the market is

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saying around you or right.

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Responding to the situation

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around you when new data or

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information becomes available.

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So I guess that's where I

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struggle with the work that

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struggled with the word stoicism.

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Um,

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Because I also want to be in

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a place where I'm listening

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to those around me.

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I'm paying attention to

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what's going on in my life

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and those around me.

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And I want to lean into my

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feelings that serve me, right?

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I don't want to be so stoic.

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I refuse to be happy or so

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stoic that I refuse to be vulnerable,

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you know, or approachable,

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all those things.

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Yeah,

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it's interesting that you had more of

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a negative connotation to

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it because I absolutely

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contribute to what you just said.

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It's that life, we're human, right?

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Life is 50-50.

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Bad stuff is going to happen,

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but what are we going to do about it?

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How are we going to show up

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and respond when we are in

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the face of adversity?

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right?

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Like that to be is stoicism, right?

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To be resilient, to brush yourself up.

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You know,

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I was thinking about confidence

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and it's like,

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it's not just confidence to succeed.

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It's confidence that you're

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going to fail over and over

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again and still be okay.

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Like it's okay to fail, right?

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You got to learn,

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you got to learn something along the way.

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And unfortunately,

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failure is one of life's

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greatest lessons.

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Yeah.

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Fortunately,

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let's say fortunately failures, right?

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Sure.

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Yes.

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First attempt to learn.

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Let's not say it's unfortunate.

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I often joke here in our

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business and it's true.

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It's like, hey,

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let's fail at something new today.

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We're going to fail at something.

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Let's pick our cross.

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Instead of failing at the

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same shit we failed at yesterday,

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let's master that thing and

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let's fail at something new

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because it's a new mountaintop, right?

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It's that growth mindset.

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It's like,

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We hit a peak.

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Okay.

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Let's go hit another fucking peak.

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And we may stumble on the

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way up the fucking mountain.

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And it's like, okay, well, let's fail.

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Let's fail until we succeed.

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Let's keep, you know, fail, fail, you know,

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try, try, try again on bullshit.

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Right.

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And it's like, well, don't keep failing.

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Don't even try.

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Like keep failing and figure

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it the fuck out.

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Like that's the goal.

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Absolutely.

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Yes.

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Because growth and success

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happens outside your comfort zone.

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Right.

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So if you're not pushing yourself,

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then you're just too safe.

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So you're working with a lot

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of higher net or successful men.

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I want to clear that up.

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Like you and I have talked about that,

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right?

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Typically your clients are

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successful and yet they want more.

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They're not right.

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Like, so like I gotta go to,

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I'm very honest about this.

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I go to counseling every other Monday.

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I went this morning at 11 AM and like,

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that's my baseline for success, right?

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With my counseling.

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And then I also have a

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business coach and other

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people I associate with

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where it's like beyond baseline, right?

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Because often what I've seen is people,

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myself included,

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it's like I was I was like, well,

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I'm good enough.

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Like and so I was resistant

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to having a coach or

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resistant to having consultants.

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So I'm like, well, I'm doing all right.

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I'm doing pretty good, you know.

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And so what is it?

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Why?

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Why is it these men are coming to you?

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Right.

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That want next level.

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And what are you providing

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them that that is also

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could be achieved by other

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people in our audience?

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Yeah.

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Well, it's interesting.

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And I like how you said

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initially there was some

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hesitation to that because

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you'll see people almost

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thinking as a failure,

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like I need a life coach or

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I need a health coach.

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Something's wrong versus I look at it.

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I mean, I have four coaches myself.

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I look at it as that

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achieving that next level.

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How can I get there without

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having to try to do it on my own?

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which often when you have a coach,

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you have that accountability partner.

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You have somebody showing you the way.

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You have somebody picking

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you up right on the hardest

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days when you do fall and you're like,

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fuck this.

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And it's just being able to

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get there faster.

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right like you get to

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celebrate and you also get

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to work through the

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challenges as you level up

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because what's that saying

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new level new devil right

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the more you level up in

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life the more you're gonna

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have to figure out and not

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just about the world but

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mostly about yourself right

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what do you value what is

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important to you are your

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day-to-day actions aligning

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with what you believe is important

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You know, your legacy,

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what do you want to be known as?

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And are you living that every day?

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And so what are the challenges?

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Like, so you work with men only.

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What are the challenges that

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men are having that you're

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helping them overcome?

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Because they have a desire

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where they want to be.

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Yeah.

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They're not getting there on their own.

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But what is it about what

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you do allows them to, you know,

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be transformative?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so honestly,

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I think it comes down to confidence.

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I think it comes down to, you know,

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a lot of them actually have

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some past traumas.

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A lot of times it's like a

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father-type figure

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relationship that was less than ideal.

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And it's almost the fear.

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You know, man, woman, we all are human,

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so we all have our fears.

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And it's just that fear and

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understanding of...

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putting of just doing it,

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just doing the thing.

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Maybe it's the highest

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societal expectations,

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the social norms of mental health, right?

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There's a lot of stress and

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anxiety that I just think

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not all men are able to

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safely talk to their friends,

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to their significant others, gosh,

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to their bosses.

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I mean,

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you can't go in there and be vulnerable,

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right?

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Like you have to pretend you

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have it all together.

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even though you may be struggling,

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you may be sleeping awful, you know,

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your diet's not so good.

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A lot of these guys I find

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are over caffeinated,

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like 1500 milligrams of caffeine a day,

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you know, um,

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They, they may be drinking a lot.

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They may be having, you know,

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their relationships aren't the best.

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They're just unfulfilled.

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You know,

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they're just unfulfilled and they

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need somebody to just help

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clear through some of that

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garbage and really get back

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on track to what it is important.

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And how do you do it?

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How, how, how is it like,

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so coaches everywhere, right?

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So what makes you unique?

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Yes,

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I have what's called the walk with me

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method.

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I find that pulling, you know,

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the traditional talk

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therapy is wonderful.

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But for me,

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I like to be physically active.

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So my sessions with with the

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guys that I work with.

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We're on the golf course.

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We're disc golfing.

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We're running stairs at Bradford Beach.

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We're just walking the trails.

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We're doing active things,

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which just naturally

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increases the cortisol in the body.

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It helps strategize and

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clearly think and process

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and just work through those

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deep emotions that otherwise get buried.

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They just get recessed.

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So I guess my strategy is

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just getting guys moving,

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just gets the habit

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established and it creates

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the safe environment.

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We're both looking forward.

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It's not that face to face all the time.

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And we're just trying to get

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to that next level,

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whatever it is to take.

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And then what I offer is not

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just our sessions,

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it's the in-between support.

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So I do a lot for my guys.

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I'm available 24 seven,

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which is my own balance issues.

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But most of life happens

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outside of our sessions, right?

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You get into a fight.

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You're in a bad situation.

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Your headspace is not right.

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And you need someone to be there.

00:23:46.038 --> 00:23:48.400
to say, what should I do in this moment?

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Or even someone to celebrate.

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I give a lot of attaboys

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because I'll get people who are like,

00:23:54.223 --> 00:23:54.604
guess what?

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I ran two miles today and

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only stopped once.

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Or, hey,

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I've lifted the last five days now.

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You know, my caffeine's down.

00:24:01.888 --> 00:24:03.390
I'm eating protein like you

00:24:03.410 --> 00:24:04.030
wouldn't believe.

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And that's where they just

00:24:05.491 --> 00:24:07.032
need someone to be like, yes,

00:24:07.613 --> 00:24:08.554
like you're doing it.

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You're crushing it, man.

00:24:10.134 --> 00:24:10.634
Keep it up.

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So is it more mental or physical then?

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Both.

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I call it the triad.

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It's mental, it's emotional,

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and it's physical.

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And when you move your body,

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you are literally doing all three.

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Yeah.

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And you only work with men.

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Why is that?

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Men in the beginning,

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just so I've been doing

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this about two years now,

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just started coming out a

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year ago that I'm actually a coach,

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started my online presence

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because I was off of social

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media for seven plus years.

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And men just raise their hand.

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I'm a boy mom.

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My best friends have always been guys.

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I don't know.

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It's just something about me and men.

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And

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And I love guys.

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I love working with them.

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I was a mechanic for four years.

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I just always wanted to be with the guys.

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You were a mechanic?

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I didn't know this.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That was my high school job

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from 16 to almost 21.

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What kind of mechanic were you?

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My dad, he owns a business in Milwaukee.

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So he was my boss.

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I graduated high school early,

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worked for him full time,

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saved a whole bunch of money.

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And that's how I really

00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:26.671
kickstarted my life, to be honest.

00:25:27.391 --> 00:25:28.652
And being a single woman,

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I own a house that I do all

00:25:30.913 --> 00:25:31.972
my own renovations.

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I've renovated my kitchen

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and just everything.

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And I attribute that to

00:25:38.096 --> 00:25:39.696
understanding the mechanics, right?

00:25:39.737 --> 00:25:41.357
When you understand how something works,

00:25:41.857 --> 00:25:43.359
it usually applies to other

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aspects of life.

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Yeah,

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I was a carpenter for years and I am

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a really average handyman now.

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I was hanging pictures last week.

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Like I'm pretty, pretty...

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Oh, right, and hang a picture.

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Oh, yeah, no, like, because I, you know,

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read the tape measure, do math.

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I can fucking math like a mofo.

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Nail in wall, hang picture.

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Like, good.

00:26:07.686 --> 00:26:08.627
I was a carpenter long

00:26:08.667 --> 00:26:09.307
enough to know that I

00:26:09.347 --> 00:26:09.808
wasn't going to be a

00:26:09.828 --> 00:26:10.929
carpenter long enough, right?

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Like, I was never, like,

00:26:12.971 --> 00:26:14.051
my father's a carpenter.

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He understands structural engineering.

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Both my brothers worked in

00:26:17.535 --> 00:26:18.315
my dad's business.

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And you put myself and my

00:26:20.936 --> 00:26:22.218
dad and my two brothers in a room,

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and I am the worst carpenter in the room.

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I know who I am.

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Also,

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you put me in a room with three other

00:26:28.222 --> 00:26:28.343
guys.

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I'm also the worst guy in junk removal.

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My dad and my two brothers

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are significantly better

00:26:35.148 --> 00:26:37.089
than me at the physical art

00:26:37.170 --> 00:26:38.371
of moving and lifting and

00:26:38.411 --> 00:26:39.471
carrying and stacking and

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packing and all those things.

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I've always been the sit back,

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let me do the logistics.

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Let me do the thinking part.

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That's your skill, right?

00:26:51.445 --> 00:26:54.247
Oh, yeah.

00:26:54.487 --> 00:26:56.267
I took small engines in high school,

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and I basically fucked

00:26:57.867 --> 00:26:58.847
around the entire time.

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I'd probably get a D. I understand.

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On a piece of paper,

00:27:03.868 --> 00:27:05.970
I understand how a small engine works.

00:27:06.210 --> 00:27:07.150
Combustion, got it.

00:27:07.950 --> 00:27:09.171
in practicality like when a

00:27:09.230 --> 00:27:10.112
car drives by you're like

00:27:10.152 --> 00:27:10.832
oh that sounds like shit

00:27:10.852 --> 00:27:11.913
and someone's like oh the

00:27:11.932 --> 00:27:12.853
timing belt is off I'm like

00:27:12.874 --> 00:27:14.013
yeah timing belt's off sure

00:27:14.634 --> 00:27:17.376
right right yeah yeah I

00:27:17.396 --> 00:27:17.997
don't know it's fucking

00:27:18.057 --> 00:27:19.038
loud like that sounded like

00:27:19.097 --> 00:27:21.219
shit or like old carbureted

00:27:21.298 --> 00:27:22.119
engines my dad's like oh

00:27:22.140 --> 00:27:22.980
it's getting too much fuel

00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.121
I'm like yeah it's getting

00:27:24.141 --> 00:27:25.362
too much fuel right even

00:27:25.382 --> 00:27:26.323
tractors like I can hop on

00:27:26.343 --> 00:27:28.825
a tractor and run it um I'm

00:27:28.845 --> 00:27:29.605
like oh it's driving like

00:27:29.664 --> 00:27:30.586
shit like that's pretty

00:27:30.605 --> 00:27:31.286
much like that is the

00:27:31.326 --> 00:27:33.567
extent of how I diagnose things um

00:27:35.595 --> 00:27:37.375
Now, once the tractor is good,

00:27:37.536 --> 00:27:38.115
I live on a farm.

00:27:38.135 --> 00:27:40.037
So I didn't this year.

00:27:40.057 --> 00:27:40.877
The last two years, though,

00:27:40.917 --> 00:27:41.718
I spent a lot of time on

00:27:41.738 --> 00:27:44.079
the tractor just

00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:45.519
cultivating the land in

00:27:45.560 --> 00:27:46.760
spring and even in the summer.

00:27:47.340 --> 00:27:48.241
And so I could tell when the

00:27:48.281 --> 00:27:49.722
tractor was bogged down or

00:27:49.762 --> 00:27:50.623
not doing right or maybe it

00:27:50.643 --> 00:27:51.544
was a bad batch of fuel or

00:27:51.564 --> 00:27:52.723
something like that.

00:27:52.924 --> 00:27:53.904
Beyond that, I'm like,

00:27:54.085 --> 00:27:55.346
let me operate the fucking machine.

00:27:55.445 --> 00:27:56.686
Like, that's where I'm good at.

00:27:57.227 --> 00:27:58.407
I also drove a truck in Iraq.

00:27:58.428 --> 00:27:59.748
So I'm like, I don't know.

00:27:59.768 --> 00:28:00.469
My truck's fucked up.

00:28:00.509 --> 00:28:01.368
It's like, give me a different truck.

00:28:01.388 --> 00:28:02.289
Have the mechanics fix it.

00:28:02.329 --> 00:28:02.509
That's...

00:28:04.317 --> 00:28:06.117
Even now, I drive a Jeep.

00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:08.159
We have a bunch of trucks.

00:28:08.598 --> 00:28:10.638
I still have no idea how DEF works.

00:28:10.679 --> 00:28:11.500
People have explained to me

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:12.720
with diesel and DEF, and I'm like,

00:28:12.740 --> 00:28:13.099
whatever.

00:28:13.140 --> 00:28:14.740
We need DEF.

00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:15.400
We don't need DEF.

00:28:15.420 --> 00:28:16.201
We need more DEF.

00:28:16.221 --> 00:28:16.820
We need DEF.

00:28:17.080 --> 00:28:18.621
Sure.

00:28:18.961 --> 00:28:20.461
I will Google it and or just be like,

00:28:20.501 --> 00:28:21.781
mechanic person, tell me what to do.

00:28:23.582 --> 00:28:24.942
I can change my own windshield wipers.

00:28:25.123 --> 00:28:25.742
I can do that.

00:28:28.123 --> 00:28:29.344
I have changed my own oil,

00:28:29.443 --> 00:28:30.903
and then I realized years ago, like,

00:28:31.655 --> 00:28:32.176
It's whatever.

00:28:32.237 --> 00:28:33.559
Oh my God.

00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:34.442
It's 20 bucks to do it

00:28:34.461 --> 00:28:35.763
yourself or 30 to drive in.

00:28:36.065 --> 00:28:37.728
Like I'm not, I don't need,

00:28:37.768 --> 00:28:38.368
you don't need to put your

00:28:38.390 --> 00:28:39.592
pants on to go get oil change.

00:28:39.612 --> 00:28:40.753
Like I'm going to go there

00:28:40.794 --> 00:28:42.076
and flip flops and shorts and be like,

00:28:42.096 --> 00:28:43.098
Hey, can you, yep.

00:28:43.159 --> 00:28:43.338
Good.

00:28:44.508 --> 00:28:45.167
I will sit here and watch

00:28:45.188 --> 00:28:46.368
YouTube videos for the next 10 minutes,

00:28:47.028 --> 00:28:47.909
and then you will charge me.

00:28:48.409 --> 00:28:48.669
Actually,

00:28:48.749 --> 00:28:50.029
I'm also the guy that I wait

00:28:50.049 --> 00:28:51.349
until I'm on a windshield wiper fluid,

00:28:51.609 --> 00:28:52.529
and then I go get my oil

00:28:52.549 --> 00:28:54.111
changed because I'm too lazy to go.

00:28:54.351 --> 00:28:56.050
I'm like, oh, fuck.

00:28:56.070 --> 00:28:56.632
This winter,

00:28:56.912 --> 00:28:57.652
it was like two or three days

00:28:57.711 --> 00:28:59.051
in a row of snow, and it was like, oh,

00:28:59.071 --> 00:28:59.251
fuck.

00:28:59.291 --> 00:29:00.032
I can't see for shit.

00:29:00.432 --> 00:29:01.532
And so there's an oil change place.

00:29:01.593 --> 00:29:03.093
I go, all right, I got 15 minutes.

00:29:03.394 --> 00:29:04.134
So I finally got...

00:29:05.167 --> 00:29:05.548
And they're like,

00:29:06.028 --> 00:29:06.689
your windshield wiper

00:29:07.148 --> 00:29:08.009
reservoir is bone dry.

00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:11.131
I'm like, yeah, why do you think I'm here?

00:29:11.151 --> 00:29:12.372
I'm 2,000 miles past my oil change.

00:29:12.571 --> 00:29:13.452
That ship sailed, honey.

00:29:13.492 --> 00:29:15.594
Let's not point fingers.

00:29:16.413 --> 00:29:17.414
Also,

00:29:17.494 --> 00:29:19.276
I buy the expensive-ass synthetic

00:29:19.536 --> 00:29:20.195
because I want to go as

00:29:20.296 --> 00:29:21.817
long as possible before my

00:29:21.836 --> 00:29:22.518
next oil change.

00:29:23.117 --> 00:29:25.259
Actually, I got gas this week,

00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:26.559
this last week, and I was at, like,

00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:27.200
a quarter tank.

00:29:27.599 --> 00:29:28.880
So, like, I adulted.

00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:30.840
Because normally it's got to be beeping.

00:29:31.181 --> 00:29:31.862
It's got to be, like,

00:29:31.882 --> 00:29:32.801
beeping and screaming.

00:29:33.122 --> 00:29:33.281
Like,

00:29:33.501 --> 00:29:34.942
I know it can be beeping on me when I

00:29:34.982 --> 00:29:35.423
leave work.

00:29:35.803 --> 00:29:37.763
I can go home, go to volleyball,

00:29:38.003 --> 00:29:39.644
go back home, make it work,

00:29:39.884 --> 00:29:41.066
and I still got probably

00:29:41.125 --> 00:29:42.205
close to a gallon-ish.

00:29:42.465 --> 00:29:42.945
Oh, my gosh.

00:29:42.965 --> 00:29:44.747
Because if I do that, I'll put, like,

00:29:44.747 --> 00:29:45.426
19.3 in a 20-gallon tank.

00:29:45.446 --> 00:29:45.586
Like, I...

00:29:49.768 --> 00:29:50.608
I ride shit.

00:29:50.788 --> 00:29:51.989
You know, I also live my life.

00:29:52.048 --> 00:29:54.250
Like I have historically, I used to,

00:29:54.329 --> 00:29:55.191
here we'll use some fucking

00:29:56.030 --> 00:29:57.051
empowering language.

00:29:57.491 --> 00:29:59.353
I used to live my life like that.

00:29:59.932 --> 00:30:02.914
And now I listen to my body

00:30:03.075 --> 00:30:05.375
and schedule physical

00:30:05.395 --> 00:30:07.977
activity and time to rest and digest.

00:30:09.438 --> 00:30:11.019
I also listen to pink noise at night.

00:30:12.278 --> 00:30:13.900
I have automatic blinds and

00:30:13.940 --> 00:30:14.779
I set my bedtime.

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:15.580
So like,

00:30:16.532 --> 00:30:17.574
I'm adulting hard.

00:30:17.934 --> 00:30:19.336
I'm, I'm adulting hard as shit.

00:30:19.676 --> 00:30:20.857
I go to the gym two days a week.

00:30:20.877 --> 00:30:21.960
I play volleyball two days a week.

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:23.642
And it took me years.

00:30:23.682 --> 00:30:24.462
Like I'm 40 now.

00:30:24.762 --> 00:30:25.943
It took me to like, I was 38 before.

00:30:25.983 --> 00:30:26.865
I'm like, all right,

00:30:27.185 --> 00:30:28.146
I should probably adult.

00:30:28.606 --> 00:30:29.808
Like, yes,

00:30:30.189 --> 00:30:31.691
I would go to gyms or have gym

00:30:31.730 --> 00:30:32.192
memberships.

00:30:32.231 --> 00:30:34.714
And I would like three to four weeks max.

00:30:35.015 --> 00:30:35.455
Like I'm,

00:30:37.424 --> 00:30:39.906
I was very inconsistent.

00:30:41.928 --> 00:30:43.949
Now I realize that the more

00:30:44.028 --> 00:30:46.089
work I do outside of work, eating right,

00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:48.151
getting my steps in,

00:30:49.092 --> 00:30:50.172
not like I'm going to go for a walk,

00:30:50.393 --> 00:30:52.134
more like being up and active around,

00:30:53.314 --> 00:30:54.214
going to play volleyball at

00:30:54.234 --> 00:30:55.015
the beach on the weekend,

00:30:55.075 --> 00:30:56.576
getting sunshine, all that shit,

00:30:57.916 --> 00:30:59.357
I work less hours and get

00:30:59.397 --> 00:31:00.458
more shit done during the week.

00:31:02.358 --> 00:31:02.740
Otherwise,

00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:04.800
I'm at work constantly chasing dopamine

00:31:05.500 --> 00:31:07.201
Because I'm not energized, you know?

00:31:07.221 --> 00:31:07.281
Yes.

00:31:08.482 --> 00:31:09.522
And also, for the record,

00:31:09.542 --> 00:31:13.585
I have one cup of regular coffee a day.

00:31:13.884 --> 00:31:16.406
And then everything else is decaf.

00:31:16.926 --> 00:31:18.627
And this week's episode is

00:31:19.067 --> 00:31:20.628
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00:31:20.648 --> 00:31:22.490
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00:31:22.990 --> 00:31:24.789
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00:31:24.829 --> 00:31:25.250
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00:31:25.411 --> 00:31:26.651
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00:31:26.671 --> 00:31:27.770
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00:31:28.151 --> 00:31:29.432
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00:31:29.491 --> 00:31:30.652
shout them out.

00:31:30.771 --> 00:31:32.711
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00:31:32.751 --> 00:31:33.292
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There we go.

00:31:35.573 --> 00:31:36.512
Those are my radio days.

00:31:36.532 --> 00:31:37.673
A little 15-second call.

00:31:37.713 --> 00:31:38.114
No big deal.

00:31:38.134 --> 00:31:38.534
Pretty good.

00:31:38.614 --> 00:31:40.013
As I'm drinking my decaf coffee.

00:31:41.835 --> 00:31:42.974
Taylor, our producer,

00:31:43.315 --> 00:31:44.375
he's a business owner of

00:31:44.434 --> 00:31:45.134
sorts and things.

00:31:45.174 --> 00:31:45.395
He said,

00:31:45.415 --> 00:31:46.355
what are some common struggles

00:31:46.375 --> 00:31:47.476
you've noticed with

00:31:47.635 --> 00:31:48.336
business owners in

00:31:48.375 --> 00:31:49.916
particular that you've seen

00:31:49.957 --> 00:31:51.176
them overcoming with coaching?

00:31:54.044 --> 00:31:54.864
Uh, let's see.

00:31:54.884 --> 00:31:56.105
Are you talking to you or me?

00:31:56.585 --> 00:31:57.085
I'm talking to you.

00:31:57.105 --> 00:31:58.164
I don't have that answer.

00:31:58.184 --> 00:32:01.945
You're the one coaching dudes.

00:32:02.105 --> 00:32:03.346
Episode 91.

00:32:03.386 --> 00:32:03.967
Thank you, Taylor.

00:32:04.166 --> 00:32:04.987
Taylor's in the background

00:32:05.007 --> 00:32:06.367
doing research the entire time.

00:32:06.748 --> 00:32:08.667
So that was 23 episodes ago.

00:32:08.688 --> 00:32:10.509
It was like six months ago.

00:32:10.548 --> 00:32:10.848
There we go.

00:32:10.888 --> 00:32:11.449
I was pretty close.

00:32:12.961 --> 00:32:15.443
So, Taylor, can I spin that question?

00:32:15.463 --> 00:32:16.065
Because actually,

00:32:16.085 --> 00:32:17.665
I personally don't work

00:32:17.705 --> 00:32:19.548
with business owners at this point.

00:32:20.048 --> 00:32:21.108
Interesting enough, though,

00:32:21.309 --> 00:32:23.111
a lot of the guys I work with,

00:32:23.431 --> 00:32:25.093
within the first three to six months,

00:32:25.133 --> 00:32:26.034
they change careers.

00:32:26.856 --> 00:32:28.438
Which I think is fascinating

00:32:28.557 --> 00:32:32.080
because a lot of them through our work,

00:32:32.421 --> 00:32:34.201
they realize they hate their job.

00:32:34.522 --> 00:32:35.563
They absolutely hate it.

00:32:35.864 --> 00:32:36.963
They're unhappy.

00:32:37.305 --> 00:32:39.566
And usually I ask them, well,

00:32:39.826 --> 00:32:40.807
why are you still there?

00:32:40.886 --> 00:32:41.948
What's stopping you from

00:32:42.008 --> 00:32:42.909
doing something different?

00:32:43.509 --> 00:32:44.769
And the answer often is,

00:32:45.210 --> 00:32:45.830
I don't even know.

00:32:46.490 --> 00:32:47.392
Let's look.

00:32:47.571 --> 00:32:48.692
Let's find something else

00:32:49.373 --> 00:32:50.314
that aligns better.

00:32:50.334 --> 00:32:54.057
So they settle for the mediocrity of...

00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.121
Well, you nailed it on the head, Andy,

00:33:00.161 --> 00:33:01.681
because so many guys I feel

00:33:01.701 --> 00:33:02.540
like are like you,

00:33:03.182 --> 00:33:05.481
especially when you're in your 20s.

00:33:05.541 --> 00:33:06.402
Didn't you think you could

00:33:06.461 --> 00:33:07.823
bounce back so quick?

00:33:08.143 --> 00:33:09.083
I could.

00:33:09.282 --> 00:33:11.243
I wasn't even thinking.

00:33:11.344 --> 00:33:11.824
I could.

00:33:13.364 --> 00:33:14.704
I remember bartending.

00:33:14.865 --> 00:33:15.704
I would bartend.

00:33:16.384 --> 00:33:18.047
till 2.30, 3 o'clock in the morning.

00:33:18.487 --> 00:33:20.528
I would get home, shit shower, shave,

00:33:20.788 --> 00:33:22.351
be in bed at 4.

00:33:22.351 --> 00:33:23.902
I'd be backed up at 5.15,

00:33:23.902 --> 00:33:27.194
5.30 so I could go play Army for the day.

00:33:28.020 --> 00:33:29.161
And I would fucking go hard

00:33:29.201 --> 00:33:30.402
at the Army all day Saturday.

00:33:30.862 --> 00:33:33.041
And I was running on pure fumes.

00:33:33.321 --> 00:33:34.903
And I'd go hard until like 1630.

00:33:35.042 --> 00:33:36.482
I'd go eat dinner.

00:33:36.542 --> 00:33:37.523
And I'd be in bed.

00:33:38.344 --> 00:33:39.564
And I'd catch like a second wind.

00:33:39.624 --> 00:33:41.065
I'd go to the bar again with the guys.

00:33:41.424 --> 00:33:43.805
And I'd be in bed at like 10, 11,

00:33:43.805 --> 00:33:45.286
back up at 6 the next morning.

00:33:45.885 --> 00:33:47.185
And by Sunday, I'm like, all right,

00:33:47.266 --> 00:33:47.886
now I should probably go to

00:33:47.906 --> 00:33:48.707
bed early on Sunday.

00:33:48.967 --> 00:33:50.106
And Monday morning, I'm back in.

00:33:50.326 --> 00:33:51.667
Like I could function like

00:33:51.807 --> 00:33:53.307
hair on fire with an hour,

00:33:53.347 --> 00:33:54.268
hour and a half of sleep.

00:33:55.008 --> 00:33:56.169
And now I'm like, ooh.

00:33:57.710 --> 00:33:58.611
I went to bed after midnight

00:33:58.711 --> 00:33:59.632
and everything hurts.

00:34:00.554 --> 00:34:01.494
Exactly.

00:34:01.694 --> 00:34:03.237
So yeah, it wasn't I thought I could.

00:34:03.738 --> 00:34:04.478
I absolutely could.

00:34:04.778 --> 00:34:05.700
I went hard.

00:34:06.079 --> 00:34:06.800
I went hard until 35.

00:34:07.082 --> 00:34:10.306
35 is when I was like, oh, fuck.

00:34:10.746 --> 00:34:11.186
Like, I'm...

00:34:12.228 --> 00:34:13.949
And now every year since has been like,

00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:16.092
oh shit, everything takes longer.

00:34:16.112 --> 00:34:17.393
I feel heavier.

00:34:17.813 --> 00:34:20.536
The problem for me is at 40,

00:34:20.536 --> 00:34:22.416
I still look at myself as a fucking kid.

00:34:22.838 --> 00:34:25.019
Like I am a man child.

00:34:25.380 --> 00:34:27.561
I, I like, I remember my dad was 40.

00:34:27.822 --> 00:34:28.722
Like he was old as shit.

00:34:28.983 --> 00:34:29.123
Right.

00:34:29.143 --> 00:34:30.264
That was like over the hill.

00:34:30.284 --> 00:34:31.385
Yeah.

00:34:31.445 --> 00:34:32.286
Now at 40, like,

00:34:32.425 --> 00:34:33.387
I don't know what age you

00:34:33.427 --> 00:34:34.228
decide you're an adult.

00:34:35.563 --> 00:34:36.182
I'm not there.

00:34:36.722 --> 00:34:37.963
Like I'm not even close to there.

00:34:37.983 --> 00:34:40.143
I have no desire to get there.

00:34:40.483 --> 00:34:41.965
Like I always anticipate

00:34:42.844 --> 00:34:43.965
looking to myself as youthful.

00:34:44.806 --> 00:34:46.885
Um, now my body will disagree.

00:34:46.985 --> 00:34:48.405
That's why my fingers hurt

00:34:48.567 --> 00:34:49.447
from playing volleyball and

00:34:49.467 --> 00:34:51.726
my knees hurt from running.

00:34:51.746 --> 00:34:54.467
Um, yeah, that's,

00:34:54.907 --> 00:34:56.528
that's where prevention is key.

00:34:56.929 --> 00:34:58.688
You know, when we enter our thirties,

00:34:58.849 --> 00:35:01.409
it's an uphill battle, you know,

00:35:01.429 --> 00:35:02.289
our muscle mass,

00:35:02.329 --> 00:35:03.971
you lose three to 8% every decade.

00:35:05.387 --> 00:35:05.666
You know,

00:35:05.706 --> 00:35:07.628
you I have a harder time bouncing

00:35:07.668 --> 00:35:09.568
back here from bad diets

00:35:09.648 --> 00:35:10.570
and lack of sleep.

00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:12.130
Your arteries are hardening.

00:35:12.190 --> 00:35:14.831
You're getting your body is changing.

00:35:14.851 --> 00:35:16.492
And that's where I try to

00:35:16.552 --> 00:35:18.954
catch guys in the 30s, 40s and 50s.

00:35:18.974 --> 00:35:20.974
Because if you can make a shift now,

00:35:21.416 --> 00:35:24.226
you're going to have a solid 60, 70, 80,

00:35:24.226 --> 00:35:24.697
90.

00:35:24.697 --> 00:35:25.597
And my goal is always 100.

00:35:26.538 --> 00:35:26.697
Like,

00:35:26.777 --> 00:35:29.119
let's get to 100 and be able to still

00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:31.561
travel, carry your own groceries forever.

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:32.922
Wipe your own bottom.

00:35:33.282 --> 00:35:34.483
Like these are things that

00:35:34.523 --> 00:35:35.545
people don't always think

00:35:35.605 --> 00:35:36.706
about because we live in

00:35:36.766 --> 00:35:37.608
such an immediate

00:35:37.648 --> 00:35:39.630
gratification world when

00:35:39.670 --> 00:35:41.532
it's like if we do these

00:35:41.572 --> 00:35:42.612
little shifts now,

00:35:42.632 --> 00:35:44.896
we're set for later in life.

00:35:45.969 --> 00:35:46.831
Yeah, I've noticed that.

00:35:46.990 --> 00:35:47.811
When I go to the gym now,

00:35:47.871 --> 00:35:49.112
it's not about making gains.

00:35:49.193 --> 00:35:50.152
It's about sustaining.

00:35:50.653 --> 00:35:51.313
It's about being able to

00:35:51.434 --> 00:35:53.396
push the same weight or

00:35:53.456 --> 00:35:55.536
maybe incremental gains,

00:35:56.217 --> 00:35:57.938
not huge trajectory.

00:35:58.280 --> 00:35:59.780
Actually, there's a leg machine.

00:36:00.121 --> 00:36:01.362
My goal is to max it out.

00:36:02.063 --> 00:36:02.623
It goes up to 250 pounds.

00:36:02.643 --> 00:36:02.762
I'm at...

00:36:02.762 --> 00:36:06.945
235 plus the 10 I think

00:36:06.985 --> 00:36:08.186
right now so I'm at 245

00:36:08.186 --> 00:36:09.847
pounds and like every week

00:36:09.887 --> 00:36:10.768
I was gaining like I was

00:36:11.088 --> 00:36:12.110
adding like five pounds

00:36:12.130 --> 00:36:13.190
like every other week by

00:36:13.210 --> 00:36:14.630
doing this machine and last

00:36:14.670 --> 00:36:15.231
week I was doing the

00:36:15.271 --> 00:36:16.793
machine I can see it I got

00:36:16.952 --> 00:36:18.032
one fucking plate left it's

00:36:18.052 --> 00:36:19.773
totally mental I want to

00:36:19.813 --> 00:36:20.755
max out that one machine

00:36:21.155 --> 00:36:22.856
and now I'm like oh it's

00:36:22.896 --> 00:36:24.097
fucking heavy now like I

00:36:24.117 --> 00:36:24.797
haven't told my trainer

00:36:24.838 --> 00:36:26.458
like oh it's fucking heavy

00:36:26.619 --> 00:36:27.559
like up until this point

00:36:27.599 --> 00:36:28.559
I'm like I got this I'll

00:36:28.579 --> 00:36:30.101
push it no big deal and now

00:36:30.121 --> 00:36:30.842
last week I was like

00:36:31.521 --> 00:36:33.083
Ooh, that was heavy this week.

00:36:33.603 --> 00:36:33.842
Right.

00:36:34.264 --> 00:36:35.784
Um, but all the other machines,

00:36:35.824 --> 00:36:36.905
my goal is cause I hit

00:36:36.945 --> 00:36:37.865
personal best at different times.

00:36:38.065 --> 00:36:39.586
I had a personal best the other day on the,

00:36:39.746 --> 00:36:42.387
uh, the overhead press.

00:36:42.728 --> 00:36:43.369
Cause I had a fucked up

00:36:43.389 --> 00:36:44.168
shoulder for the longest time.

00:36:44.188 --> 00:36:45.289
My shoulder still bothered me a bit,

00:36:45.550 --> 00:36:47.710
but I hit a personal best and it was like,

00:36:48.512 --> 00:36:50.032
I think I started like 61 points.

00:36:50.072 --> 00:36:50.713
Everything's on a point

00:36:50.733 --> 00:36:53.494
system and I'm up to like 109.

00:36:53.494 --> 00:36:53.655
Right.

00:36:53.675 --> 00:36:54.815
It took two years.

00:36:55.315 --> 00:36:56.876
I hadn't even doubled where I started.

00:36:57.197 --> 00:36:58.516
And yet I hit like 111 the other day.

00:36:58.536 --> 00:36:58.876
I was like,

00:37:00.472 --> 00:37:00.931
no big deal.

00:37:02.454 --> 00:37:03.934
I've gained a point or two a

00:37:03.994 --> 00:37:05.115
week for two fucking years.

00:37:05.456 --> 00:37:06.056
This is not

00:37:07.867 --> 00:37:09.827
but slow and steady wins the

00:37:09.847 --> 00:37:11.449
race yeah and that's the

00:37:11.469 --> 00:37:12.349
same thing with my knees my

00:37:12.409 --> 00:37:13.391
knees for the longest time

00:37:13.431 --> 00:37:14.291
I played volleyball no

00:37:14.331 --> 00:37:15.211
issues and I tore my

00:37:15.231 --> 00:37:17.273
meniscus and then I went to

00:37:17.293 --> 00:37:18.153
the pt and they're like you

00:37:18.193 --> 00:37:19.094
just need to build strength

00:37:19.614 --> 00:37:20.434
and I was like what do you

00:37:20.454 --> 00:37:21.195
think I build strength I

00:37:21.215 --> 00:37:22.056
play volleyball like that's

00:37:22.096 --> 00:37:23.157
my that's my and they're

00:37:23.177 --> 00:37:23.737
like no you need to do

00:37:23.757 --> 00:37:24.697
strength training so that's

00:37:24.717 --> 00:37:25.579
why the whole reason I

00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:26.278
started the gym in the

00:37:26.318 --> 00:37:27.079
first place was so I could

00:37:27.099 --> 00:37:28.721
play volleyball right like

00:37:29.521 --> 00:37:30.141
and I play volleyball

00:37:30.161 --> 00:37:30.842
because I like to play

00:37:30.862 --> 00:37:32.003
volleyball not necessarily

00:37:32.023 --> 00:37:33.224
because I want to not be fat

00:37:33.715 --> 00:37:34.635
You know?

00:37:36.175 --> 00:37:37.717
Because I am on cholesterol

00:37:37.737 --> 00:37:38.516
medication because I

00:37:38.617 --> 00:37:40.398
fucking love cheese and I

00:37:40.438 --> 00:37:41.438
have a predisposition

00:37:41.458 --> 00:37:42.237
because my whole family is

00:37:42.277 --> 00:37:43.139
high cholesterol, right?

00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:44.938
And I read your shit all the time.

00:37:44.978 --> 00:37:45.259
You're like,

00:37:45.278 --> 00:37:47.239
do this and this and eat broccoli.

00:37:47.260 --> 00:37:48.701
And I was like, that's really nice, Jenna.

00:37:49.141 --> 00:37:50.942
I ain't doing it.

00:37:51.641 --> 00:37:52.981
How about fucking cheese curds for dinner?

00:37:53.943 --> 00:37:57.143
With the side of broccoli.

00:37:58.023 --> 00:37:59.164
I don't even do broccoli.

00:37:59.505 --> 00:38:00.664
My brother loves broccoli.

00:38:00.684 --> 00:38:01.405
Spinach is good.

00:38:02.793 --> 00:38:03.534
What about spinach?

00:38:03.893 --> 00:38:04.655
The thing is with spinach,

00:38:04.675 --> 00:38:05.215
you're going to eat a

00:38:05.315 --> 00:38:06.315
shitload of spinach to have

00:38:06.356 --> 00:38:07.556
a fucking impact.

00:38:08.157 --> 00:38:09.739
Like I fucking, I love spinach.

00:38:09.918 --> 00:38:11.500
So I'll eat spinach like potato chips.

00:38:11.981 --> 00:38:14.342
I just sit there and I just like, um,

00:38:14.983 --> 00:38:16.063
also when you cook spinach,

00:38:16.304 --> 00:38:17.505
like it wilts down to nothing.

00:38:17.724 --> 00:38:19.567
Like it wilts down to like baby poop.

00:38:20.226 --> 00:38:23.530
And so I had Venice and

00:38:23.550 --> 00:38:24.751
Tenderloin last night with,

00:38:25.070 --> 00:38:27.032
I did have like a green noodles,

00:38:27.592 --> 00:38:29.114
like fancy wheat.

00:38:29.215 --> 00:38:29.574
Oh sure.

00:38:29.594 --> 00:38:30.576
Like a plant based.

00:38:31.552 --> 00:38:32.193
I don't fucking know.

00:38:32.534 --> 00:38:33.293
All I do know is they were

00:38:33.393 --> 00:38:34.494
frozen and they cooked in a

00:38:34.554 --> 00:38:36.175
minute with a little bit of

00:38:36.615 --> 00:38:37.516
garlic olive oil.

00:38:37.757 --> 00:38:38.036
So yeah,

00:38:38.097 --> 00:38:40.418
I went... But I had a half a bag

00:38:40.438 --> 00:38:41.759
of cheese curds before I had dinner.

00:38:41.978 --> 00:38:45.521
So that's the... And

00:38:45.561 --> 00:38:47.242
vegetables... I don't fuck

00:38:47.262 --> 00:38:47.862
with vegetables.

00:38:49.983 --> 00:38:50.724
Carnivore diet.

00:38:50.744 --> 00:38:52.184
That's my ideal diet.

00:38:52.646 --> 00:38:55.047
Which is fine.

00:38:55.646 --> 00:38:56.668
What about protein?

00:38:56.867 --> 00:38:57.929
How's your protein intake?

00:38:58.608 --> 00:38:59.829
That's key for guys.

00:39:00.489 --> 00:39:00.909
Oh yeah.

00:39:00.949 --> 00:39:01.150
No.

00:39:01.190 --> 00:39:03.612
So I, I could have a pure protein diet.

00:39:04.032 --> 00:39:04.271
Like,

00:39:04.873 --> 00:39:06.934
so my biggest issue is cutting out dairy.

00:39:06.994 --> 00:39:08.815
Cause I, I I'm fucking 40 years old.

00:39:08.875 --> 00:39:09.675
I still could drink like a

00:39:09.715 --> 00:39:10.715
half of a gallon of milk a day.

00:39:11.117 --> 00:39:11.996
And I love fucking cheese.

00:39:12.257 --> 00:39:12.777
I love cheese.

00:39:13.237 --> 00:39:14.378
Like I had shredded cheese

00:39:14.418 --> 00:39:15.358
today after my rotisserie

00:39:15.378 --> 00:39:15.958
chicken for lunch.

00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:18.820
Um, no, and I, and I,

00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:19.922
because I hunt and I have,

00:39:20.101 --> 00:39:21.222
I have tons of Venice.

00:39:21.262 --> 00:39:22.923
I eat mostly almost Venice

00:39:22.943 --> 00:39:23.903
and almost most nights.

00:39:24.625 --> 00:39:24.724
Um,

00:39:26.277 --> 00:39:27.538
And if I had more confidence

00:39:27.557 --> 00:39:28.838
in my ability to cook fish,

00:39:28.878 --> 00:39:29.599
I would eat more fish.

00:39:29.659 --> 00:39:30.300
I love fish.

00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:31.159
And yet,

00:39:32.661 --> 00:39:34.882
it's a lack of confidence cooking it.

00:39:34.902 --> 00:39:36.043
Because I always think I'm

00:39:36.063 --> 00:39:36.664
going to undercook it.

00:39:37.025 --> 00:39:39.025
And then I just fucking destroy it.

00:39:39.065 --> 00:39:39.646
Don't do it.

00:39:39.887 --> 00:39:40.487
Interesting.

00:39:40.887 --> 00:39:41.867
Also, cooking fish,

00:39:42.889 --> 00:39:44.630
I love cooking venison because it's like,

00:39:44.969 --> 00:39:45.710
put it in the frying pan.

00:39:45.731 --> 00:39:47.791
A little bit of butter, frying pan, done.

00:39:48.172 --> 00:39:49.733
It is hard to fuck something

00:39:49.753 --> 00:39:50.494
up in a frying pan.

00:39:51.655 --> 00:39:52.675
Do it with fish.

00:39:53.996 --> 00:39:55.677
Push yourself outside your comfort zone.

00:39:57.293 --> 00:39:57.432
Jen,

00:39:57.452 --> 00:39:58.434
we're supposed to be coaching the

00:39:58.474 --> 00:39:59.713
people listening, not me.

00:39:59.873 --> 00:40:00.994
Oh, okay.

00:40:01.014 --> 00:40:02.175
This would be very

00:40:02.215 --> 00:40:03.396
beneficial for them too.

00:40:03.516 --> 00:40:04.177
Oh yes.

00:40:04.456 --> 00:40:04.817
People.

00:40:04.976 --> 00:40:05.197
Yes.

00:40:05.916 --> 00:40:07.257
Do as I say, not as I do.

00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.079
That's why I love traveling.

00:40:10.099 --> 00:40:11.159
That's why I love going to restaurants.

00:40:11.179 --> 00:40:14.282
Cause I will always order shit that I,

00:40:14.802 --> 00:40:15.621
I do not cook at home.

00:40:15.641 --> 00:40:16.963
Like rarely am I going to

00:40:17.003 --> 00:40:18.963
order a steak or a burger?

00:40:19.284 --> 00:40:20.063
Like I want fish.

00:40:20.083 --> 00:40:22.766
I want something that they

00:40:22.786 --> 00:40:23.945
can prepare significantly

00:40:23.965 --> 00:40:24.547
better than I can.

00:40:25.286 --> 00:40:25.487
Yes.

00:40:26.268 --> 00:40:26.487
Yeah.

00:40:26.588 --> 00:40:26.907
That's good.

00:40:28.626 --> 00:40:28.925
All right,

00:40:28.945 --> 00:40:31.827
so what are some keys or what

00:40:31.867 --> 00:40:33.387
are some things that you teach men?

00:40:34.788 --> 00:40:36.228
Because you said confidence is the key.

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:37.148
Confidence is the thing that

00:40:37.168 --> 00:40:37.748
they're lacking.

00:40:38.389 --> 00:40:40.389
So what are skills that

00:40:40.409 --> 00:40:44.331
you're giving them or what

00:40:44.351 --> 00:40:46.132
is it you do that increases

00:40:46.152 --> 00:40:47.711
their confidence so they feel confident?

00:40:47.731 --> 00:40:48.952
Like you said, after three to six months,

00:40:48.972 --> 00:40:49.753
they're quitting their jobs

00:40:49.813 --> 00:40:50.572
and starting new careers.

00:40:50.893 --> 00:40:52.474
What is it you're doing that

00:40:52.554 --> 00:40:54.175
can be repeated outside of

00:40:54.235 --> 00:40:55.295
you by our listeners?

00:40:56.581 --> 00:40:56.882
Well,

00:40:57.123 --> 00:40:59.331
I think it always comes down to the

00:40:59.431 --> 00:41:01.898
first step is what is it that I want?

00:41:02.659 --> 00:41:02.978
you know,

00:41:02.998 --> 00:41:04.460
a lot of people actually don't

00:41:04.519 --> 00:41:06.802
even know what do I want in life.

00:41:07.362 --> 00:41:09.204
So there's a lot of work

00:41:09.304 --> 00:41:10.545
that a lot of different

00:41:10.644 --> 00:41:12.146
exercises that I put guys

00:41:12.226 --> 00:41:14.728
through just uncovering who

00:41:14.927 --> 00:41:16.009
am I as a person?

00:41:16.409 --> 00:41:17.670
What is my mission in life?

00:41:18.070 --> 00:41:19.351
What is it that I value?

00:41:19.371 --> 00:41:22.434
And what, what are my goals?

00:41:22.914 --> 00:41:24.956
You know, we try to be very strategic.

00:41:25.315 --> 00:41:27.577
I think guys kind of like your, you know,

00:41:27.938 --> 00:41:28.818
your point system,

00:41:29.338 --> 00:41:30.239
It's nice when you're

00:41:30.420 --> 00:41:31.699
actually working towards a

00:41:31.820 --> 00:41:33.320
concrete goal that you can

00:41:33.481 --> 00:41:35.641
see progress with, you know,

00:41:35.702 --> 00:41:37.922
so you always want those quick wins.

00:41:38.402 --> 00:41:39.704
You know, you want to, you know,

00:41:39.724 --> 00:41:40.583
when the guy starts

00:41:40.704 --> 00:41:42.244
dropping weight or feeling

00:41:42.264 --> 00:41:43.385
a little bit more tone,

00:41:43.445 --> 00:41:45.306
seeing some more muscle definition,

00:41:45.646 --> 00:41:46.387
that feels good.

00:41:46.686 --> 00:41:46.987
Right.

00:41:47.507 --> 00:41:48.947
And then the deeper and

00:41:49.007 --> 00:41:50.289
deeper that you get with

00:41:50.329 --> 00:41:51.670
some of these easy wins and

00:41:51.769 --> 00:41:52.969
almost always it's water.

00:41:53.349 --> 00:41:54.391
How much water are you drinking?

00:41:54.590 --> 00:41:54.811
Right.

00:41:54.891 --> 00:41:56.672
And then we just start increasing weight.

00:41:57.211 --> 00:41:58.413
such basic stuff.

00:41:58.914 --> 00:42:00.655
And once you see that ball rolling,

00:42:00.855 --> 00:42:01.775
you just become more and

00:42:01.815 --> 00:42:03.177
more confident that I can

00:42:03.217 --> 00:42:05.179
do anything that I set my mind to.

00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:06.719
I can get to, you know,

00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.942
leg pressing 250 pounds

00:42:10.443 --> 00:42:11.483
because I got somebody

00:42:11.543 --> 00:42:13.045
there who's going to hold me to that.

00:42:13.204 --> 00:42:14.905
If I say that's a goal of mine, well,

00:42:14.945 --> 00:42:15.927
we're going to make it happen.

00:42:17.500 --> 00:42:18.300
It's not the leg press.

00:42:18.380 --> 00:42:20.880
It's a hip adduction.

00:42:21.161 --> 00:42:22.001
I think I can leg press 250.

00:42:22.041 --> 00:42:23.882
That's not an issue.

00:42:23.902 --> 00:42:25.521
Because I do the leg press machine.

00:42:25.581 --> 00:42:26.521
It's way more than 250.

00:42:26.601 --> 00:42:27.021
No big deal.

00:42:27.041 --> 00:42:27.822
I'm not showing off.

00:42:29.023 --> 00:42:30.083
That's not like a huge weight.

00:42:30.603 --> 00:42:32.204
It's a leg whatever.

00:42:32.443 --> 00:42:34.164
It's the point I want to hit the 250.

00:42:34.623 --> 00:42:34.965
Also,

00:42:35.144 --> 00:42:36.945
I drink a shitload of water at night.

00:42:36.965 --> 00:42:38.505
I never drink water during the day.

00:42:39.186 --> 00:42:40.226
Why is that?

00:42:41.690 --> 00:42:43.172
Because you drink probably

00:42:43.211 --> 00:42:44.672
coffee most of the day.

00:42:44.693 --> 00:42:47.034
You can't have coffee all fucking day.

00:42:47.054 --> 00:42:50.355
See, I'm big on essential amino acids.

00:42:50.494 --> 00:42:51.456
That was one of the biggest

00:42:51.516 --> 00:42:53.197
changes I've made personally,

00:42:53.277 --> 00:42:54.496
and I have my guys do it.

00:42:54.858 --> 00:42:55.918
Your very first thing you

00:42:55.938 --> 00:42:56.958
should drink in the morning

00:42:57.179 --> 00:42:58.219
is amino acids.

00:42:58.739 --> 00:42:59.500
Then you're getting this

00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.360
full thing of water before caffeine.

00:43:02.721 --> 00:43:04.681
You're replenishing all the muscle loss,

00:43:04.942 --> 00:43:06.043
all the protein that was

00:43:06.182 --> 00:43:07.384
utilized over sleep.

00:43:07.403 --> 00:43:09.184
That's when your body heals, grows,

00:43:09.284 --> 00:43:09.704
repairs.

00:43:10.601 --> 00:43:12.621
And instantly you're starting your day,

00:43:13.262 --> 00:43:14.262
fueling your body.

00:43:14.402 --> 00:43:15.362
So you're hydrated.

00:43:15.442 --> 00:43:17.422
You got high protein right off the bat.

00:43:17.922 --> 00:43:19.222
And then you don't even need

00:43:19.262 --> 00:43:21.403
that first cup of coffee until, you know,

00:43:21.423 --> 00:43:23.704
whatever, 10 o'clock, 11 o'clock,

00:43:23.804 --> 00:43:26.304
whenever it is that you, you know,

00:43:26.344 --> 00:43:27.525
you start to experience that.

00:43:29.126 --> 00:43:30.286
All right.

00:43:30.306 --> 00:43:32.226
Or even an hour later, you know,

00:43:32.266 --> 00:43:33.786
your first hour of waking up.

00:43:34.648 --> 00:43:35.068
Yeah, 90 minutes.

00:43:35.088 --> 00:43:36.550
The key, Andrew Haberman,

00:43:36.670 --> 00:43:37.371
the neuroscientist,

00:43:37.391 --> 00:43:38.030
talks about 90 minutes.

00:43:38.090 --> 00:43:39.072
The key is to go 90 minutes

00:43:39.092 --> 00:43:40.391
without drinking any coffee

00:43:40.753 --> 00:43:41.992
because it allows your

00:43:42.273 --> 00:43:43.954
brain to fully open up and

00:43:44.715 --> 00:43:45.014
all the things.

00:43:45.034 --> 00:43:45.994
And your kidneys.

00:43:46.356 --> 00:43:48.757
So all that shit that happened overnight,

00:43:49.016 --> 00:43:50.617
so you're growing, you're repairing,

00:43:50.657 --> 00:43:52.398
you're healing, you're processing.

00:43:52.438 --> 00:43:54.840
That's why it's a bad idea

00:43:54.880 --> 00:43:56.221
to binge eat before you go

00:43:56.260 --> 00:43:57.561
to bed because now your

00:43:57.641 --> 00:43:59.583
body has so much work to do

00:43:59.862 --> 00:44:00.704
all night long,

00:44:00.784 --> 00:44:01.844
and it can't go around and

00:44:01.903 --> 00:44:03.085
clean up all the other stuff.

00:44:03.425 --> 00:44:04.204
It's like the garbage

00:44:04.244 --> 00:44:06.226
removal when it's got a big

00:44:06.306 --> 00:44:07.606
shit ton of stuff to do.

00:44:07.746 --> 00:44:09.007
It can't go around and clean

00:44:09.027 --> 00:44:10.007
the nooks and crannies.

00:44:10.748 --> 00:44:12.829
So when you drink water in

00:44:12.869 --> 00:44:14.289
the morning and you your

00:44:14.389 --> 00:44:15.449
first couple of peas,

00:44:15.750 --> 00:44:17.871
you're flushing all the toxins out.

00:44:18.030 --> 00:44:20.552
It's like you're you're like a sewer,

00:44:20.692 --> 00:44:20.893
right?

00:44:20.932 --> 00:44:22.452
You're like cleaning it out

00:44:22.552 --> 00:44:23.994
before you're packing shit in.

00:44:25.489 --> 00:44:25.768
Okay,

00:44:25.809 --> 00:44:27.849
so I fucking love going to bed on a

00:44:27.889 --> 00:44:28.349
full stomach.

00:44:28.610 --> 00:44:29.989
I sleep so much better.

00:44:30.010 --> 00:44:32.371
I think Andrew Huberman talked about this,

00:44:32.391 --> 00:44:33.231
like carb load.

00:44:33.650 --> 00:44:35.931
I can go all day where I

00:44:36.072 --> 00:44:37.092
only eat carbs at night,

00:44:37.652 --> 00:44:39.351
and I eat dinner late all the time,

00:44:39.391 --> 00:44:40.172
like 7, 8 o'clock.

00:44:40.693 --> 00:44:42.472
Tonight I have gym at 7,

00:44:42.472 --> 00:44:44.773
so I'm not going to get home until 8,

00:44:44.773 --> 00:44:45.474
which means I'm not going

00:44:45.494 --> 00:44:46.994
to be done eating until 9,

00:44:46.994 --> 00:44:48.554
and I'm going to carb load like a mother.

00:44:50.135 --> 00:44:51.074
Now as I'm talking about dinner,

00:44:51.215 --> 00:44:51.795
I'm already thinking about

00:44:51.815 --> 00:44:52.936
dinner because I fucking love dinner.

00:44:53.396 --> 00:44:55.360
I'm going to have a pound of rice.

00:44:55.380 --> 00:44:55.842
That'd be heavy.

00:44:56.282 --> 00:44:57.364
I'm going to have a cup of rice.

00:44:57.865 --> 00:45:01.173
Actually, how much is a cup of rice?

00:45:01.193 --> 00:45:03.057
I want to see the weight of a cup of rice.

00:45:03.668 --> 00:45:04.789
Well, and let me ask you,

00:45:04.909 --> 00:45:05.909
is this white rice?

00:45:06.190 --> 00:45:07.630
Is this a whole grain?

00:45:07.690 --> 00:45:09.271
Is this a brown rice?

00:45:10.112 --> 00:45:12.853
This is regular ass white rice.

00:45:14.114 --> 00:45:15.835
That would be one of the

00:45:15.934 --> 00:45:16.916
first things I'd say.

00:45:16.956 --> 00:45:18.336
Switch that out for quinoa.

00:45:18.476 --> 00:45:20.177
Switch that out for something else.

00:45:20.197 --> 00:45:21.197
I got a rice cooker.

00:45:21.277 --> 00:45:22.059
I got a rice cooker,

00:45:22.079 --> 00:45:23.239
not a fucking quinoa cooker.

00:45:23.259 --> 00:45:24.500
I'm sure it probably does the same.

00:45:25.059 --> 00:45:27.101
One cup of white rice is seven ounces,

00:45:27.121 --> 00:45:28.141
so I guess about a half a pound.

00:45:30.612 --> 00:45:30.771
See,

00:45:30.831 --> 00:45:32.432
I was told white rice is like the best

00:45:32.492 --> 00:45:33.934
carb because it's so simple.

00:45:34.494 --> 00:45:35.173
No way.

00:45:35.335 --> 00:45:38.036
So any simple carb like a white rice,

00:45:38.255 --> 00:45:42.170
any enriched white flour –

00:45:42.170 --> 00:45:45.271
Your body, right after you digest it,

00:45:45.371 --> 00:45:46.532
it's just like sugar.

00:45:46.954 --> 00:45:48.375
So it puts your body in this

00:45:48.494 --> 00:45:50.695
high stress response causing this,

00:45:50.775 --> 00:45:51.757
it's called the blood sugar

00:45:51.817 --> 00:45:52.617
roller coaster.

00:45:52.637 --> 00:45:53.518
Real quick,

00:45:53.538 --> 00:45:55.139
I went to type in best carbs

00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:57.041
and it shows up as Alaskan

00:45:57.101 --> 00:45:58.342
King because I type in

00:45:58.402 --> 00:46:01.844
crabs because I fucking, A,

00:46:01.905 --> 00:46:02.704
I can't spell.

00:46:06.027 --> 00:46:06.248
Yeah.

00:46:07.027 --> 00:46:07.369
Yes.

00:46:07.789 --> 00:46:09.610
Even Taylor says brown rice

00:46:09.710 --> 00:46:10.391
might be better.

00:46:10.411 --> 00:46:10.471
Yes.

00:46:13.083 --> 00:46:14.224
That's what I'm going to buy you.

00:46:15.284 --> 00:46:18.666
No, because... No, what do you call it?

00:46:21.670 --> 00:46:22.070
The fuck?

00:46:23.731 --> 00:46:23.871
No,

00:46:23.911 --> 00:46:25.152
brown rice is terrible because it has

00:46:25.172 --> 00:46:26.474
the husk and shit on it and

00:46:26.554 --> 00:46:27.875
your body doesn't digest that shit,

00:46:27.914 --> 00:46:28.275
I thought.

00:46:29.056 --> 00:46:31.056
That's why... All right, fine.

00:46:31.077 --> 00:46:32.418
To your point, Healthline.com.

00:46:33.938 --> 00:46:34.838
Again, totally, like,

00:46:34.878 --> 00:46:36.039
fucking biased and probably

00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:36.860
trying to sell shit.

00:46:37.079 --> 00:46:38.360
It's a goddamn Walmart ad.

00:46:39.041 --> 00:46:39.320
You're right.

00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:40.440
Quinoa is number one.

00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:41.860
Oats is two.

00:46:42.742 --> 00:46:45.121
Oats and me do not agree for some reason.

00:46:45.141 --> 00:46:46.322
That's all right.

00:46:46.963 --> 00:46:47.463
Buckwheat.

00:46:47.483 --> 00:46:48.864
That's what my fucking dad calls me.

00:46:48.903 --> 00:46:49.623
That ain't fucking.

00:46:49.824 --> 00:46:50.463
What is this shit?

00:46:51.023 --> 00:46:52.985
You can't eat fucking raw buckwheat.

00:46:53.005 --> 00:46:53.405
What the fuck?

00:46:53.425 --> 00:46:55.186
Where the hell do you find buckwheat?

00:46:55.525 --> 00:46:56.505
There ain't no fucking buckwheat.

00:46:56.565 --> 00:46:58.487
It's fucking laying around.

00:46:59.186 --> 00:47:00.106
I can't find a bag of

00:47:00.206 --> 00:47:01.246
buckwheat at the Costco.

00:47:01.327 --> 00:47:03.068
How do you eat buckwheat?

00:47:04.590 --> 00:47:05.731
is a highly nutritious whole

00:47:05.751 --> 00:47:06.672
grain that many people

00:47:06.711 --> 00:47:08.092
consider to be a superfood.

00:47:08.393 --> 00:47:09.094
What is this shit?

00:47:10.074 --> 00:47:10.594
I'm going to type in

00:47:10.715 --> 00:47:11.856
buckwheat in real life.

00:47:11.996 --> 00:47:14.036
Now you got me triggered with your fucking,

00:47:14.617 --> 00:47:15.518
you know, like my white reef.

00:47:15.677 --> 00:47:15.878
Okay,

00:47:16.018 --> 00:47:17.320
I just typed in buckwheat in real

00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:18.981
life and goddamn buckwheat

00:47:19.061 --> 00:47:21.902
from little rascals popped up.

00:47:21.922 --> 00:47:22.143
See,

00:47:22.382 --> 00:47:25.364
you can't even find buckwheat in real

00:47:25.684 --> 00:47:25.985
food.

00:47:26.164 --> 00:47:26.925
That ain't a real thing.

00:47:29.947 --> 00:47:31.369
Keen was a complete protein,

00:47:31.389 --> 00:47:32.730
so it is a superfood.

00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:37.099
I don't hate quinoa.

00:47:37.219 --> 00:47:37.519
Actually,

00:47:37.539 --> 00:47:40.820
I think I probably have quinoa in

00:47:40.860 --> 00:47:41.621
my pantry.

00:47:41.641 --> 00:47:44.041
I don't hate it.

00:47:44.061 --> 00:47:44.902
I just don't love it.

00:47:45.641 --> 00:47:45.942
Sure.

00:47:46.342 --> 00:47:47.302
Well, that's the thing.

00:47:47.342 --> 00:47:48.702
It's like you got to decide

00:47:48.762 --> 00:47:50.302
what are you eating for, right?

00:47:50.402 --> 00:47:51.922
Is it just for the immediate

00:47:51.963 --> 00:47:53.304
gratification for the taste

00:47:53.384 --> 00:47:55.063
or are you eating for longevity?

00:47:55.083 --> 00:47:58.364
I eat until I'm physically –

00:47:59.545 --> 00:48:00.385
Unable to keep eating.

00:48:01.347 --> 00:48:03.208
My daughter loves mac and cheese,

00:48:03.268 --> 00:48:05.250
and so do I. I will make a

00:48:05.289 --> 00:48:06.150
box of mac and cheese,

00:48:06.190 --> 00:48:07.050
and there's no way we're

00:48:07.070 --> 00:48:08.411
splitting that 50-50.

00:48:08.472 --> 00:48:10.313
I will eat until I eat all

00:48:10.333 --> 00:48:11.074
the food on my plate,

00:48:11.454 --> 00:48:13.155
and then she eats as much as she does,

00:48:13.476 --> 00:48:14.498
and I just finish her plate,

00:48:14.538 --> 00:48:15.398
and I'm so happy.

00:48:16.039 --> 00:48:18.641
All the other high-carb foods are fruits,

00:48:19.822 --> 00:48:20.603
and I can't have them.

00:48:20.623 --> 00:48:21.744
Then it's kidney beans and

00:48:21.784 --> 00:48:24.085
chickpeas are the last two.

00:48:24.766 --> 00:48:25.005
Yes.

00:48:25.347 --> 00:48:25.847
Pasta...

00:48:27.278 --> 00:48:28.099
I love pasta.

00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:29.280
I fucking love pasta.

00:48:29.340 --> 00:48:31.340
But chickpea pasta is an

00:48:31.380 --> 00:48:32.840
incredible alternative.

00:48:32.860 --> 00:48:35.541
Because you're getting so much protein,

00:48:35.601 --> 00:48:36.402
it's plant-based,

00:48:36.461 --> 00:48:37.702
and it doesn't got all the carbs.

00:48:38.101 --> 00:48:38.382
Also,

00:48:38.402 --> 00:48:41.902
they don't sell... According to the

00:48:41.922 --> 00:48:42.704
internet right now,

00:48:42.943 --> 00:48:44.664
since we got totally sidetracked,

00:48:45.083 --> 00:48:45.784
they don't sell...

00:48:48.987 --> 00:48:49.929
buckwheat at the Costco.

00:48:50.108 --> 00:48:51.170
And that's where I do my shopping.

00:48:51.210 --> 00:48:52.952
If Costco don't sell it, I don't, I ain't,

00:48:52.992 --> 00:48:53.592
that ain't what I do.

00:48:53.911 --> 00:48:56.414
They do have organic quinoa

00:48:56.855 --> 00:48:58.476
and they have my bag of Jasmine rice.

00:48:58.516 --> 00:48:59.436
I buy the big old 25,

00:48:59.436 --> 00:49:01.099
I have a 25 pound bag of

00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:02.739
rice at home from the Costco.

00:49:03.201 --> 00:49:04.021
There's like 20 bucks.

00:49:04.121 --> 00:49:05.043
It's so cheap.

00:49:05.083 --> 00:49:06.824
It's so like, so that's,

00:49:07.023 --> 00:49:08.025
we did the math on that.

00:49:08.045 --> 00:49:09.867
That's 50 fucking servings,

00:49:09.867 --> 00:49:11.128
50 plus 54 servings.

00:49:11.728 --> 00:49:11.929
Yeah.

00:49:12.528 --> 00:49:13.650
That's a year's worth of rice for me.

00:49:14.030 --> 00:49:14.251
Easy.

00:49:16.304 --> 00:49:17.365
That's the problem, though,

00:49:17.485 --> 00:49:19.047
is that good food is

00:49:19.827 --> 00:49:21.668
usually more expensive and

00:49:22.148 --> 00:49:23.268
can take longer to prep.

00:49:23.550 --> 00:49:24.750
And that's why people avoid it.

00:49:25.411 --> 00:49:27.472
I have no problem living forever, right?

00:49:28.072 --> 00:49:30.653
All right.

00:49:30.733 --> 00:49:32.934
Quinoa actually is on point

00:49:33.255 --> 00:49:37.577
price-wise as double the

00:49:37.597 --> 00:49:40.460
price of white rice.

00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:41.420
And that's not crazy.

00:49:41.481 --> 00:49:44.722
I don't know if I love quinoa that much.

00:49:45.833 --> 00:49:46.353
Try it once.

00:49:46.974 --> 00:49:48.275
No, I've had it.

00:49:48.516 --> 00:49:50.597
No, no, I've had it.

00:49:50.858 --> 00:49:51.597
I've eaten.

00:49:51.657 --> 00:49:53.119
I've dated people that were like, quinoa.

00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:53.880
And I was like, all right,

00:49:53.940 --> 00:49:54.561
I'll eat this shit.

00:49:55.561 --> 00:49:58.744
I don't go out of my way to

00:49:58.804 --> 00:49:59.503
buy it or something.

00:49:59.824 --> 00:50:00.565
What's the other one I like?

00:50:01.045 --> 00:50:01.465
Rosetta?

00:50:01.485 --> 00:50:01.905
Risotto?

00:50:01.965 --> 00:50:02.547
The one you got to keep

00:50:02.567 --> 00:50:03.186
putting the water in?

00:50:03.226 --> 00:50:03.626
Risotto?

00:50:03.646 --> 00:50:04.547
I love risotto.

00:50:05.469 --> 00:50:06.449
Too lazy to make it, though.

00:50:06.710 --> 00:50:07.530
And that's just flour.

00:50:07.610 --> 00:50:09.112
That's just flour and a smaller noodle,

00:50:09.391 --> 00:50:09.931
basically.

00:50:10.472 --> 00:50:11.853
Can we put ketchup on it to

00:50:11.914 --> 00:50:12.713
make it taste better?

00:50:12.793 --> 00:50:13.275
Or cheese.

00:50:13.295 --> 00:50:13.414
Cheese.

00:50:15.068 --> 00:50:17.172
Welcome to a trash talk food

00:50:17.211 --> 00:50:19.856
podcast where we talk about all food that

00:50:21.672 --> 00:50:22.592
I'm supposed to be eating so

00:50:22.873 --> 00:50:25.855
I'm not fat and lazy someday.

00:50:26.235 --> 00:50:27.076
But this is the thing.

00:50:27.175 --> 00:50:31.378
You can't outrun a bad diet.

00:50:31.637 --> 00:50:34.059
But I always tell people you got to live.

00:50:34.478 --> 00:50:35.760
So if you are going to have

00:50:35.840 --> 00:50:37.639
a high-carb diet,

00:50:38.041 --> 00:50:39.440
then are you doing enough

00:50:39.541 --> 00:50:41.222
activity to actually burn

00:50:41.282 --> 00:50:42.302
that excess carbs?

00:50:42.483 --> 00:50:43.682
Because carbs is energy.

00:50:44.163 --> 00:50:45.664
And what energy does not get

00:50:45.824 --> 00:50:47.105
used gets stored as fat.

00:50:47.724 --> 00:50:49.985
And then, you know, people right now,

00:50:50.005 --> 00:50:50.987
you know,

00:50:51.206 --> 00:50:53.469
over 40% of men are

00:50:53.628 --> 00:50:55.349
unfortunately overweight.

00:50:55.349 --> 00:50:56.731
50% have either high blood

00:50:56.751 --> 00:50:58.231
pressure or high cholesterol.

00:50:58.811 --> 00:51:01.773
And one in four die from heart disease.

00:51:01.994 --> 00:51:04.315
And almost all of that can be prevented.

00:51:04.875 --> 00:51:06.335
That's why I'm so passionate

00:51:06.416 --> 00:51:08.257
because it's like, why?

00:51:08.277 --> 00:51:11.559
Why live a short life or why

00:51:11.619 --> 00:51:12.719
have a stroke or a heart

00:51:12.739 --> 00:51:14.740
attack at 50 when that

00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:15.501
could be prevented?

00:51:16.481 --> 00:51:17.682
Yeah, according to the Army,

00:51:17.742 --> 00:51:18.443
I'm overweight.

00:51:18.643 --> 00:51:19.083
I'm fat.

00:51:21.146 --> 00:51:22.606
So even this chart here, I have 76.

00:51:22.646 --> 00:51:24.688
Actually, I like this chart.

00:51:24.947 --> 00:51:26.570
This chart here says I'm not fat.

00:51:26.630 --> 00:51:27.050
So there we go.

00:51:27.090 --> 00:51:29.192
Let me use this chart from now on.

00:51:29.291 --> 00:51:30.211
My base guy.

00:51:30.231 --> 00:51:30.472
All right.

00:51:30.492 --> 00:51:34.195
So this says 76 inches, 40 plus.

00:51:34.295 --> 00:51:34.956
Finally hit that.

00:51:35.195 --> 00:51:35.717
No big deal.

00:51:36.036 --> 00:51:37.318
I got 226 pounds.

00:51:37.338 --> 00:51:38.199
That's my allotted.

00:51:38.539 --> 00:51:39.298
Even actually 28 to 39 was 223.

00:51:39.338 --> 00:51:39.860
So I hover right at.

00:51:39.860 --> 00:51:46.894
218 to 221 like that's my my

00:51:47.014 --> 00:51:51.018
hover weight um for the

00:51:51.038 --> 00:51:51.697
longest time I couldn't

00:51:51.737 --> 00:51:52.539
even get over 200 pounds

00:51:52.559 --> 00:51:54.380
when I was back in uh iraq

00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:55.541
I remember I wanted so bad

00:51:55.581 --> 00:51:57.762
to get I was like at 187

00:51:57.762 --> 00:52:00.003
for the longest time like

00:52:00.043 --> 00:52:00.824
and then and then once I

00:52:00.844 --> 00:52:01.985
hit 200 pounds I've never

00:52:02.304 --> 00:52:02.885
been under 200 pounds

00:52:03.942 --> 00:52:04.161
Sure.

00:52:04.822 --> 00:52:06.682
My ideal weight is probably, I don't know,

00:52:06.682 --> 00:52:06.963
205 maybe.

00:52:07.003 --> 00:52:07.523
What's the ideal?

00:52:07.543 --> 00:52:10.403
According to the Army, I'm fat.

00:52:10.864 --> 00:52:12.844
My max is 212.

00:52:13.565 --> 00:52:15.025
That's for when you're like 20, though.

00:52:15.806 --> 00:52:16.186
Sure.

00:52:17.606 --> 00:52:18.746
That's ROTC standards.

00:52:19.588 --> 00:52:21.568
What's hard, though, I mean, you're tall.

00:52:21.688 --> 00:52:23.668
You're tall and thin.

00:52:23.889 --> 00:52:25.188
It's your muscle distribution.

00:52:25.269 --> 00:52:27.210
Muscle weighs way more than fat.

00:52:27.869 --> 00:52:30.231
I also got a fucking pooch.

00:52:30.710 --> 00:52:32.072
I ain't going to lie about that.

00:52:32.519 --> 00:52:33.820
I mean, I wasn't going to say that.

00:52:35.420 --> 00:52:36.481
But you really don't.

00:52:36.940 --> 00:52:38.561
I can't see that shit from a goddamn Zoom.

00:52:39.262 --> 00:52:39.942
What are we on?

00:52:40.202 --> 00:52:41.161
StreamYard?

00:52:41.802 --> 00:52:42.762
Hashtag StreamYard.

00:52:43.063 --> 00:52:45.922
That's going to drive me nuts.

00:52:45.943 --> 00:52:46.204
All right.

00:52:46.324 --> 00:52:47.923
Anyways.

00:52:50.445 --> 00:52:51.344
What did we solve today?

00:52:51.445 --> 00:52:52.144
Quinoa.

00:52:53.065 --> 00:52:53.664
Confidence.

00:52:53.985 --> 00:52:55.186
Quit your fucking job you hate.

00:52:55.666 --> 00:52:56.425
Go for a walk.

00:52:56.865 --> 00:52:58.206
I will say that when I am in

00:52:58.547 --> 00:52:59.286
my depression...

00:53:00.161 --> 00:53:00.742
Hire a coach.

00:53:01.282 --> 00:53:03.666
I will say when I am in my

00:53:04.146 --> 00:53:05.608
woe is me victim mindset,

00:53:05.989 --> 00:53:07.389
I have a tendency to be lethargic.

00:53:08.070 --> 00:53:09.893
Earlier this year,

00:53:09.932 --> 00:53:10.653
I started playing video

00:53:10.693 --> 00:53:11.514
games because I was not in

00:53:11.534 --> 00:53:12.496
a great place mentally.

00:53:12.516 --> 00:53:14.599
Video games were giving me

00:53:14.619 --> 00:53:17.481
that little bit of dopamine satisfaction.

00:53:18.443 --> 00:53:19.344
and and they weren't

00:53:19.523 --> 00:53:20.304
actually solving any

00:53:20.324 --> 00:53:21.365
problems I was you know

00:53:21.385 --> 00:53:22.947
just masking the

00:53:22.967 --> 00:53:24.028
frustrations I was having

00:53:24.068 --> 00:53:25.530
in life and I know when I'm

00:53:25.590 --> 00:53:26.630
out and I'm active I'm

00:53:26.811 --> 00:53:28.612
better um obviously this

00:53:28.652 --> 00:53:29.233
time of year with the

00:53:29.273 --> 00:53:30.315
weather being legit like

00:53:30.375 --> 00:53:34.298
it's a lot simpler um I

00:53:34.318 --> 00:53:35.099
know for me I need to get

00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:35.920
out and be active earlier

00:53:35.940 --> 00:53:36.782
in the day that's what I

00:53:36.822 --> 00:53:37.902
need to do because I work

00:53:37.922 --> 00:53:38.764
work work and then at the

00:53:38.784 --> 00:53:39.443
end of the day I'm like oh

00:53:39.463 --> 00:53:40.244
now I'm gonna go work out

00:53:40.304 --> 00:53:41.045
and I'm normally uh

00:53:43.222 --> 00:53:44.724
I've already like my best

00:53:44.744 --> 00:53:45.943
hours are behind me typically,

00:53:45.963 --> 00:53:46.804
if that makes sense.

00:53:47.525 --> 00:53:47.724
Well,

00:53:47.824 --> 00:53:49.704
and that's the beauty of being an

00:53:49.764 --> 00:53:50.945
entrepreneur, right?

00:53:51.106 --> 00:53:53.106
Is that if you have more

00:53:53.146 --> 00:53:54.467
control over your schedule

00:53:54.586 --> 00:53:56.288
and you know what works for you,

00:53:56.728 --> 00:53:57.628
then you make it work.

00:53:57.807 --> 00:53:59.048
It becomes a priority.

00:53:59.329 --> 00:54:01.489
You book it in your calendar

00:54:01.690 --> 00:54:03.409
that this is a meeting I

00:54:03.469 --> 00:54:06.110
cannot miss me and a workout,

00:54:06.251 --> 00:54:07.572
whatever that means for me.

00:54:08.737 --> 00:54:09.016
Oh, yeah.

00:54:09.056 --> 00:54:09.858
No, absolutely.

00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:12.278
Last year, I had more flexibility.

00:54:12.298 --> 00:54:13.460
I was working out earlier in the day.

00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:17.222
And I will get back to that

00:54:17.322 --> 00:54:18.784
this year where I'm booking

00:54:18.804 --> 00:54:20.485
my workouts and working out

00:54:20.585 --> 00:54:22.146
earlier in the day when I'm

00:54:22.166 --> 00:54:23.226
in a more of a prime zone

00:54:23.547 --> 00:54:24.567
versus an afterthought.

00:54:24.726 --> 00:54:25.568
And we'll use it as dead on.

00:54:25.628 --> 00:54:29.150
It is prioritize the priorities, right?

00:54:29.329 --> 00:54:30.831
When you schedule it as a priority,

00:54:30.911 --> 00:54:31.112
then...

00:54:32.297 --> 00:54:32.538
you know,

00:54:32.818 --> 00:54:34.778
then you're good because then you're,

00:54:34.978 --> 00:54:36.099
you're, you're saying, Hey,

00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:36.900
I'm going to take care of me.

00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:38.320
I talked about someone that this weekend,

00:54:38.340 --> 00:54:38.581
they're like,

00:54:38.641 --> 00:54:39.681
I take care of everybody else.

00:54:39.701 --> 00:54:40.360
I was like, cool.

00:54:40.942 --> 00:54:42.942
How much time do you do work on yourself?

00:54:42.961 --> 00:54:44.242
And they're like, none.

00:54:44.262 --> 00:54:44.922
And I was like, okay,

00:54:45.804 --> 00:54:47.164
then you're burning the candle.

00:54:47.224 --> 00:54:47.423
Right.

00:54:47.563 --> 00:54:48.824
And when you don't take care of yourself,

00:54:49.684 --> 00:54:50.465
You're not going to be the

00:54:50.505 --> 00:54:51.465
best version of yourself to

00:54:51.505 --> 00:54:53.407
take care of your significant other,

00:54:53.847 --> 00:54:55.427
your kids, your business,

00:54:55.588 --> 00:54:57.528
your social life, whatever it is.

00:54:58.349 --> 00:55:00.990
I'm intentionally selfish with my time.

00:55:01.010 --> 00:55:01.911
I went to the beach this weekend.

00:55:02.110 --> 00:55:03.211
That's what I do to recharge.

00:55:03.831 --> 00:55:04.972
I play volleyball two days a week.

00:55:05.572 --> 00:55:06.293
When there's a networking

00:55:06.333 --> 00:55:07.994
event on Tuesday or Wednesday, it's like,

00:55:08.155 --> 00:55:09.094
no, I play volleyball.

00:55:09.414 --> 00:55:10.096
That's what I do.

00:55:10.615 --> 00:55:11.876
I know me missing volleyball

00:55:11.896 --> 00:55:13.137
will make me not the best

00:55:13.177 --> 00:55:14.097
person in the world.

00:55:14.677 --> 00:55:16.659
When I play volleyball, I feel better.

00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:18.380
I'm a better version of myself that week.

00:55:18.900 --> 00:55:20.239
I get it.

00:55:20.340 --> 00:55:22.061
It's like my volleyball is

00:55:22.081 --> 00:55:22.960
like the hour a week.

00:55:23.001 --> 00:55:23.742
I know I'm not gonna be on

00:55:23.762 --> 00:55:24.882
my phone because I am a

00:55:24.942 --> 00:55:26.882
glutton for being stuck on

00:55:26.902 --> 00:55:27.802
my phone and the fucking

00:55:27.882 --> 00:55:30.523
dopamine from emails to

00:55:30.563 --> 00:55:32.244
messages to social media, to YouTube.

00:55:32.304 --> 00:55:34.864
Like I, I know the right answer.

00:55:35.385 --> 00:55:35.625
Right.

00:55:35.644 --> 00:55:37.266
And I need to get out.

00:55:37.445 --> 00:55:39.407
I need to get out and be more active.

00:55:40.146 --> 00:55:41.126
Uh, I got the coach part,

00:55:41.186 --> 00:55:42.126
that part I'm good on.

00:55:42.146 --> 00:55:43.288
Um, yeah.

00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:44.960
And that's the thing too,

00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.181
when listeners reach out to me often,

00:55:47.501 --> 00:55:48.101
it's like they're reaching

00:55:48.121 --> 00:55:49.001
out when they're in burnout

00:55:49.061 --> 00:55:51.402
phase and they have never

00:55:51.541 --> 00:55:52.822
prioritized themselves.

00:55:53.322 --> 00:55:55.041
And now they have this, woe is me,

00:55:55.101 --> 00:55:57.123
I have to do this victim mindset.

00:55:57.762 --> 00:55:58.842
And I tell them all the same thing.

00:55:58.882 --> 00:56:00.903
And I was 100% guilty of it too.

00:56:00.983 --> 00:56:01.483
Raise my hand.

00:56:01.523 --> 00:56:02.784
I was the guy where it's like,

00:56:03.903 --> 00:56:05.405
you're a martyr to your business.

00:56:05.445 --> 00:56:06.445
And the thing is with martyrs,

00:56:06.485 --> 00:56:07.144
they always die.

00:56:08.302 --> 00:56:08.802
So it's like,

00:56:08.822 --> 00:56:09.704
do you want to be the victor

00:56:09.724 --> 00:56:10.905
within your business or the martyr?

00:56:10.945 --> 00:56:12.646
And that's a choice on

00:56:12.666 --> 00:56:13.365
whether or not you take

00:56:13.385 --> 00:56:14.706
care of what you said, what I like,

00:56:14.987 --> 00:56:17.489
was mental, physical,

00:56:17.548 --> 00:56:18.489
and emotional health.

00:56:19.110 --> 00:56:19.469
Exactly.

00:56:19.489 --> 00:56:21.751
And movement begets momentum.

00:56:22.371 --> 00:56:24.373
And so getting movement first,

00:56:24.893 --> 00:56:25.673
which is a choice,

00:56:26.313 --> 00:56:27.875
can beget the momentum of

00:56:28.114 --> 00:56:29.155
stabilizing your emotional

00:56:29.175 --> 00:56:29.815
and your mental health.

00:56:29.835 --> 00:56:29.815
100%.

00:56:30.617 --> 00:56:30.737
Yes.

00:56:30.797 --> 00:56:30.856
Yes.

00:56:33.985 --> 00:56:34.686
That's exactly it.

00:56:34.907 --> 00:56:35.748
And that's what I do.

00:56:36.489 --> 00:56:37.931
You just start with the

00:56:37.992 --> 00:56:39.514
movement and all that

00:56:39.554 --> 00:56:41.398
beautiful stuff just keeps

00:56:41.498 --> 00:56:42.219
rolling from there.

00:56:44.146 --> 00:56:44.646
Well, yeah,

00:56:44.666 --> 00:56:46.409
because you can make the choice.

00:56:46.869 --> 00:56:47.489
You can't just say,

00:56:47.509 --> 00:56:48.989
I'm going to be confident today.

00:56:49.030 --> 00:56:50.731
That's not how this works, right?

00:56:50.751 --> 00:56:51.911
You can't say, hey,

00:56:51.972 --> 00:56:53.614
I'm going to go for a walk today.

00:56:53.954 --> 00:56:55.135
I am going to see a coach today.

00:56:55.335 --> 00:56:57.797
I am going to go to the gym today.

00:56:57.996 --> 00:56:59.277
I am going to eat food

00:56:59.297 --> 00:57:00.217
that's going to make me

00:57:00.277 --> 00:57:02.400
feel better and more powerful.

00:57:02.800 --> 00:57:03.880
All those things are choices.

00:57:04.621 --> 00:57:05.742
Yes, yes.

00:57:06.143 --> 00:57:07.103
How beautifully how that

00:57:07.164 --> 00:57:09.105
wraps right into our

00:57:09.164 --> 00:57:11.226
beginning conversation of stoicism,

00:57:11.246 --> 00:57:13.248
of what you can control in

00:57:13.307 --> 00:57:14.769
life and what you can't.

00:57:15.469 --> 00:57:17.871
So take action with what you can.

00:57:18.532 --> 00:57:19.092
Look at that.

00:57:19.172 --> 00:57:21.755
We got top takeaways-ish

00:57:21.815 --> 00:57:23.056
without even talking about them,

00:57:23.655 --> 00:57:24.836
finishing right on time,

00:57:24.856 --> 00:57:27.059
which normally we get all over the place.

00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:28.739
We stayed relatively on track today.

00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:29.260
That was good.

00:57:30.701 --> 00:57:31.521
What else?

00:57:31.601 --> 00:57:32.782
What last bit of advice?

00:57:34.838 --> 00:57:35.878
do you have for the

00:57:35.938 --> 00:57:36.778
betterment of the group,

00:57:36.818 --> 00:57:37.458
the betterment of

00:57:37.699 --> 00:57:38.699
entrepreneurs out there?

00:57:38.739 --> 00:57:39.679
What is it they need to do?

00:57:39.739 --> 00:57:40.380
If there's one thing,

00:57:40.641 --> 00:57:41.240
we'll just do a top

00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:42.661
takeaway is one thing that

00:57:42.681 --> 00:57:44.083
needed to walk away from, from this show.

00:57:45.762 --> 00:57:46.003
Well,

00:57:46.123 --> 00:57:47.563
I think I'm going to table off of

00:57:47.603 --> 00:57:48.684
what you just said is

00:57:48.744 --> 00:57:50.266
self-care is not selfish.

00:57:50.905 --> 00:57:52.666
If you have big goals and

00:57:52.726 --> 00:57:53.746
big dreams in life,

00:57:54.447 --> 00:57:55.628
what are you doing day

00:57:55.708 --> 00:57:57.829
after day to actually make

00:57:57.869 --> 00:57:58.929
them become a reality?

00:57:59.961 --> 00:58:01.623
And be able to be there long

00:58:01.684 --> 00:58:02.724
enough to enjoy it,

00:58:02.844 --> 00:58:04.286
to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

00:58:05.927 --> 00:58:07.208
So put yourself first.

00:58:07.528 --> 00:58:08.889
And with doing so,

00:58:09.050 --> 00:58:10.150
you're going to see it

00:58:10.210 --> 00:58:11.932
spill over positively into

00:58:12.172 --> 00:58:13.353
all the people around you,

00:58:13.793 --> 00:58:15.275
whether it's your family, your friends,

00:58:15.936 --> 00:58:18.217
or your people who work for you.

00:58:18.237 --> 00:58:20.960
I mean, they want a healthy-minded,

00:58:21.141 --> 00:58:23.282
healthy physical person in charge.

00:58:24.755 --> 00:58:26.077
Yeah, I love that point.

00:58:26.137 --> 00:58:27.061
And I can say the

00:58:27.101 --> 00:58:28.965
counterpoint is my business

00:58:29.025 --> 00:58:30.289
is at its best when I am

00:58:30.329 --> 00:58:31.592
the healthiest because then

00:58:31.612 --> 00:58:32.795
I'm seeing things clearly.

00:58:34.679 --> 00:58:35.920
Right now I'm in a pretty healthy spot,

00:58:35.940 --> 00:58:39.240
and we're going through a rougher period.

00:58:39.260 --> 00:58:39.740
We're getting rid of a

00:58:39.780 --> 00:58:41.501
couple of employees this

00:58:41.561 --> 00:58:42.902
week because we've hired a few,

00:58:42.983 --> 00:58:45.284
and we're upgrading our team,

00:58:45.463 --> 00:58:46.664
and we're upgrading our bench.

00:58:47.585 --> 00:58:48.184
And some people are

00:58:48.204 --> 00:58:49.304
self-selecting out because

00:58:49.344 --> 00:58:50.206
they know they're on the hot seat,

00:58:50.226 --> 00:58:51.346
and the other people are letting go.

00:58:51.666 --> 00:58:53.547
And so that's always, for me,

00:58:53.626 --> 00:58:55.507
that's a frustrating time.

00:58:55.547 --> 00:58:57.048
And yet I'm going to it from

00:58:57.068 --> 00:58:58.548
a healthy perspective where it's like, no,

00:58:59.068 --> 00:59:01.117
there's nothing –

00:59:01.117 --> 00:59:01.418
you know,

00:59:01.438 --> 00:59:02.418
we're holding you a standard and

00:59:02.438 --> 00:59:03.039
you're choosing not to

00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:03.800
follow the standard.

00:59:04.059 --> 00:59:04.900
And I can say that with a

00:59:04.940 --> 00:59:06.362
clear mind and not,

00:59:06.481 --> 00:59:07.342
there's nothing vindictive.

00:59:07.362 --> 00:59:08.083
There's nothing shitty.

00:59:08.123 --> 00:59:08.603
There's nothing.

00:59:08.842 --> 00:59:09.824
It's like, yep, here it is.

00:59:09.923 --> 00:59:10.565
It is what it is.

00:59:10.625 --> 00:59:10.784
Right.

00:59:11.344 --> 00:59:14.867
And so that is because I

00:59:14.967 --> 00:59:16.108
choose to take care of myself.

00:59:16.148 --> 00:59:16.989
That is because I choose to

00:59:17.009 --> 00:59:18.230
go to the gym two days a week.

00:59:18.889 --> 00:59:19.851
i choose to play volleyball

00:59:19.891 --> 00:59:20.590
I choose to go play

00:59:20.610 --> 00:59:21.492
volleyball this week and I

00:59:21.512 --> 00:59:23.233
choose to um spend time

00:59:23.253 --> 00:59:24.273
with my daughter outside

00:59:24.313 --> 00:59:25.534
you know like even when the

00:59:25.594 --> 00:59:26.414
other day she was mad she's

00:59:26.434 --> 00:59:27.094
like dad we're supposed to

00:59:27.114 --> 00:59:27.855
have a lazy day and I was

00:59:27.875 --> 00:59:29.036
like no lazy day means

00:59:29.056 --> 00:59:30.356
we're not going to work yes

00:59:30.797 --> 00:59:31.597
however we are going

00:59:31.637 --> 00:59:32.356
outside and we're doing

00:59:32.396 --> 00:59:33.277
stuff outside we know we

00:59:33.338 --> 00:59:34.237
played football we ran

00:59:34.277 --> 00:59:36.320
around and um I know when

00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:37.900
my body's in motion I am

00:59:38.099 --> 00:59:39.141
the best version of myself

00:59:40.161 --> 00:59:41.121
there you go drop the mic boom

00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:45.280
All right.

00:59:45.800 --> 00:59:47.161
Well, Jenna Jans.

00:59:47.541 --> 00:59:47.940
Jans.

00:59:48.001 --> 00:59:48.860
It reminds me of this guy I

00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:49.621
was in Iraq with.

00:59:49.661 --> 00:59:50.922
His name was Janssen,

00:59:50.961 --> 00:59:52.242
but he always go with Janssen,

00:59:52.583 --> 00:59:53.483
like jogging.

00:59:54.123 --> 00:59:56.304
Very soft J. No big deal.

00:59:56.684 --> 00:59:56.903
Jenna,

00:59:56.923 --> 00:59:57.824
you stick around for a minute

00:59:57.923 --> 00:59:58.724
because we got to make sure

00:59:58.744 --> 00:59:59.605
your shit uploads and all

00:59:59.644 --> 01:00:00.244
those fun things.

01:00:00.585 --> 01:00:00.925
However,

01:00:01.025 --> 01:00:01.846
let's talk about the next couple

01:00:01.865 --> 01:00:02.706
episodes.

01:00:03.206 --> 01:00:03.585
Next week,

01:00:03.626 --> 01:00:04.967
we have our quarterly update

01:00:05.067 --> 01:00:06.067
with Andy Barton.

01:00:06.507 --> 01:00:07.447
Andy Barton's joined us.

01:00:07.507 --> 01:00:08.148
This is his 14th.

01:00:08.887 --> 01:00:09.768
to give us an update of what

01:00:09.849 --> 01:00:12.170
he's seen in the junk removal industry.

01:00:12.570 --> 01:00:13.311
And on July 15th,

01:00:13.530 --> 01:00:14.690
I've been looking forward

01:00:14.710 --> 01:00:15.532
to this one for a while.

01:00:15.871 --> 01:00:16.492
Kevin Hess.

01:00:16.532 --> 01:00:17.713
Kevin Hess is making his

01:00:17.773 --> 01:00:19.173
rounds recently on a lot of

01:00:19.193 --> 01:00:19.974
different podcasts.

01:00:19.994 --> 01:00:21.994
He is well-renowned within

01:00:22.014 --> 01:00:23.076
the junk removal community.

01:00:23.835 --> 01:00:24.376
15 plus years.

01:00:24.396 --> 01:00:25.697
He worked for Big Blue and

01:00:25.737 --> 01:00:26.677
now he's doing his own thing.

01:00:26.697 --> 01:00:27.778
He's put himself a lot on

01:00:27.818 --> 01:00:29.239
social media lately and I'm

01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:30.240
really excited for him to

01:00:30.280 --> 01:00:31.681
share his story and his

01:00:31.722 --> 01:00:33.403
journey here on the Trash

01:00:33.443 --> 01:00:34.543
Talk Business Podcast.

01:00:34.563 --> 01:00:35.585
So that's what we got coming

01:00:35.605 --> 01:00:36.306
up in the next two weeks.

01:00:36.746 --> 01:00:37.686
If you want to be a guest or

01:00:37.706 --> 01:00:39.148
you know a guest we need to have on,

01:00:39.168 --> 01:00:40.849
like I said, Casey's left the show.

01:00:41.409 --> 01:00:43.210
I am not very actively

01:00:43.251 --> 01:00:44.072
looking for a co-host.

01:00:44.172 --> 01:00:44.771
I'm open to it.

01:00:45.152 --> 01:00:45.853
And I'm going to keep this

01:00:45.893 --> 01:00:47.653
show going so long as we have guests.

01:00:48.275 --> 01:00:49.795
And when the day comes that

01:00:49.835 --> 01:00:51.336
the market responds and we have no guests,

01:00:51.356 --> 01:00:51.757
well then we...

01:00:52.498 --> 01:00:53.097
Table the show.

01:00:53.197 --> 01:00:54.139
That's as simple as this.

01:00:54.179 --> 01:00:56.000
That's the that's the directory I'm on.

01:00:56.039 --> 01:00:57.500
I want to serve the greater

01:00:57.519 --> 01:00:58.581
drunk community,

01:00:58.780 --> 01:00:59.860
and I ultimately need your

01:00:59.920 --> 01:01:01.802
support to ensure that we

01:01:01.822 --> 01:01:03.003
have great guests lined up.

01:01:03.043 --> 01:01:04.103
So if you have a vendor,

01:01:04.742 --> 01:01:05.563
you have a customer,

01:01:05.923 --> 01:01:07.844
you have yourself or even a

01:01:07.885 --> 01:01:08.664
competitor that you think

01:01:08.704 --> 01:01:10.045
would be a great guest on

01:01:10.085 --> 01:01:10.806
this show that you want to

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learn from and grow from,

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send them my way.

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Taylor, our producer,

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will get them hooked up and

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we will have them on an

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upcoming episode of the

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Trash Talk Business Podcast.

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So on behalf of Taylor, our producer,

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Jenny Yans, our amazing guest today,

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I'm Andy Wines.

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This has been a Trash Talk

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Business Podcast,

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and we will see you next week.

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